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Gerard Meijssen

8 Mar 2017 8 Mar '17

11:19 a.m.

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Yongmin H.

8 Mar 8 Mar

11:31 a.m.

That's something local community has to decide and when they decide to do so, they will have to submit their request to phabricator. See [1]. [1]: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requesting_wiki_configuration_changes -- Yongmin Sent from my iPhone https://wp.revi.blog Please note that this address is list-only address and any non-mailing list mails will be treated as spam. Please use https://encrypt.to/0x947f156f16250de39788c3c35b625da5beff197a. 2017. 3. 8. 18:19 Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> 작성:

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Hoi, A lot of effort has gone into getting ready to support OSM in our projects. What I want the Wikimedia Foundation is to allow the use of OSM maps in the Haitian Wikipedia because existing maps are largely not in sync with the reality in Haiti. As I understood from information at the website of Doctors without Borders, much of the infrastructure is gone and it is problematic to know what exists. They rely on OSM. By providing the best maps to the Haitian Wikipedia we provide a relevant service. I understand that we do support OSM in Wikivoyage. Could we please support OSM maps in the Haitian Wikipedia. Thanks, GerardM _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

Gerard Meijssen

11:57 a.m.

Hoi, What the current state of play is that the WIkimaps people have it that it cannot be done. That it will be denied. So no. Could we have it and if so, THEN we may ask he Haitian community if they want it. The same thing applies to other Wikipedias that want to show maps of Haiti. Thanks, On 8 March 2017 at 10:31, Yongmin H. <lists(a)revi.pe.kr> wrote:

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Hoi, A lot of effort has gone into getting ready to support OSM in our

projects.

What I want the Wikimedia Foundation is to allow the use of OSM maps in

the

Haitian Wikipedia because existing maps are largely not in sync with the reality in Haiti. As I understood from information at the website of Doctors without Borders, much of the infrastructure is gone and it is problematic to know what exists. They rely on OSM. By providing the best maps to the Haitian Wikipedia we provide a relevant service. I understand that we do support OSM in Wikivoyage. Could we please support OSM maps in the Haitian Wikipedia. Thanks, GerardM _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/

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Marco Chiesa

12:09 p.m.

On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Hoi, What the current state of play is that the WIkimaps people have it that it cannot be done. That it will be denied.

I don't understand your point. To be honest, I don't understand the relation between Wikimaps (I understand it's this: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wikimaps ) and OpenStreetMap

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So no. Could we have it and if so, THEN we may ask he Haitian community if they want it. The same thing applies to other Wikipedias that want to show maps of Haiti.

Gerard Meijssen

12:24 p.m.

Hoi, That is a subset of the functionality available to Wikivoyate ... https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/San_Francisco/SoMa#Get_in Thanks, GerardM On 8 March 2017 at 11:09, Marco Chiesa <chiesa.marco(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On Wed, Mar 8, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Hoi, What the current state of play is that the WIkimaps people have it that

cannot be done. That it will be denied.

I don't understand your point. To be honest, I don't understand the relation between Wikimaps (I understand it's this: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wikimaps ) and OpenStreetMap

So no. Could we have it and if so, THEN we may ask he Haitian community

they want it. The same thing applies to other Wikipedias that want to

show

maps of Haiti.

On the Italian Wikipedia we can see OSM maps of Haiti (see https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haiti on the top right the link "Mappa" will popup the OSM map of Haiti); I guess the community asked at some point. I don't know how it works on mobiles, and whether it would work on Wikipedia Zero programs, but on a technical level it is definitely doable. Marco _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

Antoine Musso

12:42 p.m.

Le 08/03/2017 à 10:19, Gerard Meijssen a écrit :

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Hello, In short: * get community consensus * fill a task in Phabricator for #wikimedia-site-requests * profit! The full explanation: The Wikimedia Foundation renders OpenStreet map tiles on servers hosted and maintained internally. The entry point can be seen at: https://maps.wikimedia.org/ The integration in wiki projects is made possible by the MediaWiki extension Kartographer: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Kartographer That extension is enabled on every public wikis: 'wmgUseKartographer' => [ 'default' => true, 'private' => false, ], By default we only enable <maplink> which is a link that when clicked popup a map for the given latitude/longitude at some zoom level. Example: <maplink latitude="19.290" longitude="-72.842" zoom="8" /> Example: https://ht.wikipedia.org/wiki/Itilizatè:Hashar To enable embedded maps, one needs to enable extra settings. You would want to fill a task in Phabricator using #wikimedia-site-requests and a requirement is to have community consensus about it. Typically done on the Wiki equivalent of a village pump. Past examples: Finish wikipedia https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T151591 Norwegian wikipedia https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T154021 The technical change is absolutely trivial. I can not tell about its implication for the mobile Zero data plan though. I am assuming that maps.wikimedia.org is whitelisted. cheers, -- Antoine "hashar" Musso

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