In a message dated 12/29/2007 10:16:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, erik(a)wikimedia.org writes: How would Board members then be chosen? I believe that the answer is a mechanism many non-profits use: a Nominating Committee. This committee should be made up of people who are neither Board nor Staff members, who represent both managerial competence and community values. While there is much to say about your entire post, since it is rather long, I will focus on this point. Previously, you hinted at a rejection the idea of community elections, i.e., the community does not choose. Now you are adding to this that neither Board nor Staff choose. Who is left? Outsiders? Large donors? Wikilovers? My Aunt Gertrude? As for the ED participating in the selection process, the ED answers to the Board and serves at the Board's pleasure. It would seem inappropriate to have said ED then determine whom to pleasure. Peace, love, and purview, Danny **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004)