Le 25/01/2012 14:51, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton a écrit :
Well as you know, Brazil is a priority, but when spending is a waste.
We have a volunteer group that operates in Brazil since 2008 in direct
contact with the problems of Brazil, know much about the free national
culture, know a lot about education in the country, and their projects, they
can tell the reasons why Brazil has poor performance on Wikipedia. Wikimedia
Foundation conducted several interviews with the group, I was interviewed
three times and had several conversations with several different employees.
Also recently a person was hired to do a search on this, already operating in
And yesterday they announced the arrival of two more employees to ask only
that, again.  They already have the answer to these interviews, what
they are asking again?
And what I find worse is the fact that there is a prohibitive message for
explanation of other Wikimedia projects. As for the local group that
Wikipedia is not central. And there will be an office of WMF, only to
activities for Wikipedia. And many Brazilians criticize the model of the WMF,
and that centralization in Wikipedia. Wikipedia is only the tenth seventh most
visited site in the country. Need better, yes, but the problem is the
community that is not healthy, and that the WMF does not interfere on that. So
it's skating, and spending resources unnecessarily.
Several staff members say the Wikipedia impact is larger than the other
Which has more impact for you?
"The Movement Wikimedia projects through education, created free
educational resources available in Wikibooks, and classes on Wikiversity,
this could change the lives of thousands of poor children" or
"The Movement Wikimedia succeeded in creating an encyclopaedia in
Portuguese high quality "
Unfortunately I live in a country that 38% of teens lives in extreme
poverty , how they want to create a program just with universities, to
share knowledge if people that never walk inside one university? Or not be
able to read the contents of Wikipedia because they were not properly
literate. I'm not talking to literate Brazilians, I'm talking to create free
educational resources, and create classes, and encourage businesses
to do that change, this is a collaborative work.
With the money spent to keep three people six days in Brazil from the U.S.A.,
we could fund a fellow to start a social work with teachers to create this
material.What is the interest of the WMF on this? "Our priority is Wikipedia
*Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
sum of all knowledge. That's our commitment.
I'll keep imagining, and having to push myself very hard to see this world.
That will never be reached by Wikipedia alone.Especially in Brazil.
That's interesting. What kind of "free educational resources" would you
like to be developed ?
What about a Wikikids in portugese ?
By the way, on that subject, I'd like to point out this discussion I had
on simple.wikipedia about Wikikids/Vikidia :
However, even if this project is doing well in two languages yet
(wikikids.nl and fr.vikidia.org
), I'm not sure it can be endorsed or
just supported by the WMF !
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