On 7/21/07, Joichi Ito jito@neoteny.com wrote:
I'm sorry this happened. I'll look into how this happened, but my understanding was that the language that was used was what was in the draft.
If it was the language in the public drafts during 2007 I am gravely mistaken and owe an apology.
It *was* the language in a Dec 2006 draft I was given privately. Because I did not see the language in later drafts I believed it was dropped from consideration, I was in error to make that assumption regardless of anything else that went on.
An example draft: http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-licenses/2007-February/005013.html
Even if this isn't confusion on my part, then this still isn't the end of the world.
There does appear to be a widespread belief that the current language is confusing, so I can't say that I'll be too happy if the end result is nothing more than to agree to disagree, but I am happy to see some progress. ;)
Thanks for your attention.
-- Greg
On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 02:23 -0400, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
On 7/21/07, Joichi Ito jito@neoteny.com wrote:
I'm sorry this happened. I'll look into how this happened, but my understanding was that the language that was used was what was in the draft.
If it was the language in the public drafts during 2007 I am gravely mistaken and owe an apology.
It *was* the language in a Dec 2006 draft I was given privately. Because I did not see the language in later drafts I believed it was dropped from consideration, I was in error to make that assumption regardless of anything else that went on.
An example draft: http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-licenses/2007-February/005013.html
That draft is only for the US license.
Generic/unported license drafts with the language in question were public from the beginning of the 3.0 process: http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-licenses/2006-August/003855.html http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/cc-licenses/2006-October/004459.html
But CC could have done a more thorough job of reaching out to Wikipedians for critique. If you were left with the impression the drafts were private this is a bad thing.
Your feedback on the licenses and process will in the long run result in higher quality CC licenses, so thanks. :)
Mike
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