I don't think that means the projects are dying: I'm an infrequent contributor to both of those projects, and every time I go there, they're better.

I am not a Wictionary contributor but I was never able to understand why we have Wictionaries in different language, though a big part of those seem to be translations on other languages, and they overlap. Would it not be advantageous to have just one Wictionary (as we have just one Commons)? Sorry for the ignorant question, there might be obvious reasons why they should not be the same.

It's possible. The interface part is even quite easy. The hard part is defining a data model to contain all the words in all languages, with definitions in all languages, with morphology tables, etc. Something like this is slowly being done at www.omegawiki.org and there are other projects, too.

2011/9/13 David Richfield <davidrichfield(a)gmail.com>om>: What's the barriers to OmegaWiki joining WMF? - d. _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Supporting/Investing in the extensions used by OmegaWiki. http://www.omegawiki.org/Special:Version

In the discussion of the Wikinews fork (may they thrive), I picked up some comments predicting the death of Wiktionary and Wikiquote, referring to the low numbers of regular contributors. I don't think that means the projects are dying: I'm an infrequent contributor to both of those projects, and every time I go there, they're better. Wikiquote is continually improving in coverage and accuracy, and Wiktionary has recently gotten new features (e.g. a separate citations tab) and is also going forward. People are checking recent changes: last time I edited Wiktionary, I was adding citations to an article where the current list was in reverse chronological order, and I was too lazy to change it, thinking "someone else can fix this". Before I got to the third citation, someone had fixed the sequence. The fact that progress is slowing isn't a sign of impending death. As long as the wikis don't stagnate to the extent that they start to get taken over by spammers and trolls, I'm not going to hold a wake. As for Wikiquote being one of our less useful projects, that's possibly true, but only because the other projects are so awesome! The web is awash with crap quotation websites of with the same misattributed quotes being incestuously copied around - Wikiquote is one beacon of sanity in that whole mess. -- David Richfield e^(πi)+1=0 _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

I think it is our mission to publish reference works. That is what we do. Reference works include Encyclopedias, dictionaries, collections of quotations, of images, and of texts. Wikinews is not a reference work, although it has archives.

In the discussion of the Wikinews fork (may they thrive), I picked up some comments predicting the death of Wiktionary and Wikiquote, referring to the low numbers of regular contributors. I don't think that means the projects are dying: I'm an infrequent contributor to both of those projects, and every time I go there, they're better. Wikiquote is continually improving in coverage and accuracy, and Wiktionary has recently gotten new features (e.g. a separate citations tab) and is also going forward. People are checking recent changes: last time I edited Wiktionary, I was adding citations to an article where the current list was in reverse chronological order, and I was too lazy to change it, thinking "someone else can fix this". Before I got to the third citation, someone had fixed the sequence. The fact that progress is slowing isn't a sign of impending death. As long as the wikis don't stagnate to the extent that they start to get taken over by spammers and trolls, I'm not going to hold a wake. As for Wikiquote being one of our less useful projects, that's possibly true, but only because the other projects are so awesome! The web is awash with crap quotation websites of with the same misattributed quotes being incestuously copied around - Wikiquote is one beacon of sanity in that whole mess. -- David Richfield e^(πi)+1=0 _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

On 09/20/11 10:11 PM, とある白い猫 wrote: same you failures. This is all very true. The important thing is to keep focused on your own project. If you look at competing projects, rather than looking at their usage statistics, a better question is "What are they failing to do that you could do better?" Ray _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l