I see a request to block Roger's User:Victuallers account as it is in
contravention of our Username policy on promotional names -
Normally for an account this old (2007) we might not ask for a change
of name, but given the circumstances I think a name change might be a
good idea.
Doug Weller
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Andreas Kolbe <jayen466(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I've located some more information about
Geovation now by myself:
https://challenge.geovation.org.uk/a/dtd/119163-16422
Wales Coast Path only: What theme of the challenge does your idea address?:
3. Community engagement What problem are you trying to solve? : Green
tourism: what's around me? What makes it different?
How will your idea work? : There are two parts, fist we meet local groups
and show them how to add information onto a Wikipedia page: and that's
really simple! Secondly we show them how their articles can be geotagged.
The best part is enjoying a walk down the path with a smart phone, with any
AR tagged articles shown through the camera, informing the User (tourist or
local) about what's around them: history of that unusual building or where's
the nearest Young Farmers Club? What's the name of that mountain, and
where's the nearest toilet! Take a look at MonmouthpediA on Wikipedia and
multiply it by 10!
How will it provide a solution to the Challenge? : It's the best answer
possible! The local WI (or Merched y Wawr) will bring along old photographs,
which would be scanned in and uploaded, and their locations geotagged. They
would learn new skills on how to edit existing articles and how to create
new ones. The local chapel could write about the history of their chapel,
and so could the local cafe - including the opening times! Schools could
show off their latest Brochure for Parents and even nature clubs could write
about the local habitats. This is about: bringing people together in order
to inform walkers, cyclists and joggers what's around them.
What is the stage of development? What help and investment you need to build
it?: Because Wikipedia is so simple, it's ideal for this project.
Communities know about the geography and history, and culture of their area
MUCH better than an app writer or web-author sitting in his office in
Manchester! Wikimedia UK would be asked to run the scheme, employing
Wikipedians, just as the National Library does in London... and the National
Museum etc. Their help would be crucial. Welsh Wicipedians have also shown
their enthusiasm and would filter out any unwanted vandalism. Wikipedia has
a proven track record: why re-create the wheel all the time? It's an app
which is already installed on most iPads and iPhones! Pure and simple.
Neighbourhood Challenge only: How would you use Ordnance Survey data in your
solution? : See below.
Wales Coast Path only: How will you use geographic information in your
solution? : Yes! Geotagging on Wikipedia is so easy! One line and the whole
article pops up! Through Layar (invisible to the User), we would view
through the camera's phone what's around us, and automatically a number of
Wikipedian "W"s pop up wherever the article's location is. For example, an
User takes a look at a cluster of mountains, and immediately the "W" shows
that there is an article written, so the user chooses a mountain with his or
her finger and they're straight into the article! And not just Cymraeg and
English: there are over 250 languages on Wikipedia. All articles would be
geographically and traditionally (OS) tagged.
http://www.geovation.org.uk/teams-win-innovation-funding-wales-coast-path-c…
Living Paths – Roger Bamkin and Robin Owain of Monmouthpedia were the pair
behind this idea which will allow communities along the path to create a
Wikipedia page and post stories about their communities allowing diverse
local information to become accessible. Awarded: £17,500.
As I see it, this is a programme whereby Wikimedia UK pays Wikipedians to
get members of the public to become volunteer editors. You can see it as an
editor recruitment programme, and as a programme to secure unemployed
Wikipedian friends paid employment. There has been practically no discussion
of this on wiki to date.
Andreas
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Thomas Morton
<morton.thomas(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
Hmm, well this is getting Murkier still. Have people violated these
principles.
Someone on Jimbo's talk linked to this article:
http://www.chronicle.gi/headlines_details.php?id=25440
Which:
a) Identifies Roger as WMUK director with implication he is acting in
official capacity
b) Says that Gibraltar approached WMUK
I appreciated this is the media, so inaccuracey is likely. But I suggest
we quickly resolve the following issues:
* Did Gibraltar approach WMUK, or is this incorrect & they approached the
Monmouthpedia orgnaisers?
* If they did not approach WMUK, did they think, or were they led to think
they were approaching WMUK by whoever they did approach?
* Has Roger used his position as WMUK director to obtain this Gibraltar
contract?
I'm AGF that nothing untoward has happened here, but I suggest a statement
be issued with some urgency to clear these matters up. Or it may well
backfire on the charity.
Tom
On 18 September 2012 08:55, Jon Davies <jon.davies(a)wikimedia.org.uk>
wrote:
Indeed - I think it is even mentioned in one of our many governance
documents.
On 18 September 2012 08:52, Gordon Joly <gordon.joly(a)pobox.com> wrote:
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