On 4 December 2010 23:42, Virgilio A. P. Machado vam@fct.unl.pt wrote:

Could you please tell how long you have been around Wikimedia projects? I would like to have an idea of how much time it takes to find out that "we have at least three hierarchical structures." You left out at least Santa Claus.

Totally dismayed,

Virgilio A. P. Machado

Since mid 2004. The existence of arbcom and the foundation are hardly classified.