Hi all,
I’m delighted to share that a final version of the Wikimedia movement's new strategic direction has been posted on Meta-Wiki: https://meta.wikimedia.org/?curid=10422143
The drafting group[1] bravely spent several weeks reading, considering, and (when possible) responding to the comments posted about the previous drafts. Attempting to capture and synthesize the aspirations and opinions of a global movement based on hundreds of offline and online conversations is no easy task. Please join me in thanking them not only for taking on this formidable process, but for helping develop something I believe we can all be proud of.
I am optimistic that this strategic direction provides every individual and entity within the Wikimedia movement something to be excited about. Beginning on October 26, we will be asking for individual contributors and organized groups to endorse this new strategic direction for our movement. I encourage you to spend the intervening days discussing this direction and determining if you and/or your group will be endorsing it. You will find more information about the endorsement day and the process on the direction’s meta page next week.
The endorsement concludes phase 1 of the process, and we are currently drafting the next steps of the process. The main goal of phase 2 will be to answer the question "How do we implement the strategic direction", which means identifying the resources needed for execution, and the activities it involves. A first rough overview of this phase is being developed on Meta. Take a look! [2]
On a different note, we have completed the move into our new office space at One Montgomery Tower![3] Once again, thank you to everyone on staff who was involved in making the move so seamless, and to all of you for your patience over the past couple of weeks. Later this month, once we are more settled in, we will be sharing photos and information about our new space on the Wikimedia Blog.
Stay tuned!
መልካም ቀን። (Amharic translation: “Have a nice day”),
Katherine
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/People/Draf... [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_2030/Process_planning [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_headquarters
2017-10-20 23:10 GMT+02:00 Katherine Maher kmaher@wikimedia.org:
I am optimistic that this strategic direction provides every individual and entity within the Wikimedia movement something to be excited about.
Hello, it is not about what I might be excited about - I wonder in which ways the document will be used in a way I find problematic for the community.
I am still curious about the links in the "See also" section:
- Appendix https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Direction/Appendix: More information about the process, research, and findings that led to this outcome. - A report of findings https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Findings is being written and many references on this page will be updated to point to its content.
Are those (and the footnotes) part of the "direction" document? Will people who endorse the document also endorse them?
Kind regards,
Ziko
Beginning on October 26, we will be asking for individual contributors and organized groups to endorse this new strategic direction for our movement. I encourage you to spend the intervening days discussing this direction and determining if you and/or your group will be endorsing it. You will find more information about the endorsement day and the process on the direction’s meta page next week.
The endorsement concludes phase 1 of the process, and we are currently drafting the next steps of the process. The main goal of phase 2 will be to answer the question "How do we implement the strategic direction", which means identifying the resources needed for execution, and the activities it involves. A first rough overview of this phase is being developed on Meta. Take a look! [2]
On a different note, we have completed the move into our new office space at One Montgomery Tower![3] Once again, thank you to everyone on staff who was involved in making the move so seamless, and to all of you for your patience over the past couple of weeks. Later this month, once we are more settled in, we will be sharing photos and information about our new space on the Wikimedia Blog.
Stay tuned!
መልካም ቀን። (Amharic translation: “Have a nice day”),
Katherine
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_ movement/2017/People/Drafting_Group [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_2030/Process_planning [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_headquarters _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Hi Ziko,
Quick response regarding the endorsement: We will ask people to only endorse the strategic direction in the green box and the short section underneath with the next steps.
Hope that helps.
Best regards, Nicole
On 21 October 2017 at 01:02, Ziko van Dijk zvandijk@gmail.com wrote:
2017-10-20 23:10 GMT+02:00 Katherine Maher kmaher@wikimedia.org:
I am optimistic that this strategic direction provides every individual
and
entity within the Wikimedia movement something to be excited about.
Hello, it is not about what I might be excited about - I wonder in which ways the document will be used in a way I find problematic for the community.
I am still curious about the links in the "See also" section:
- Appendix
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_ movement/2017/Direction/Appendix: More information about the process, research, and findings that led to this outcome.
- A report of findings
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_ movement/2017/Findings is being written and many references on this page will be updated to point to its content.
Are those (and the footnotes) part of the "direction" document? Will people who endorse the document also endorse them?
Kind regards,
Ziko
Beginning on October 26, we will be asking for individual contributors
and
organized groups to endorse this new strategic direction for our
movement.
I encourage you to spend the intervening days discussing this direction
and
determining if you and/or your group will be endorsing it. You will find more information about the endorsement day and the process on the direction’s meta page next week.
The endorsement concludes phase 1 of the process, and we are currently drafting the next steps of the process. The main goal of phase 2 will be
to
answer the question "How do we implement the strategic direction", which means identifying the resources needed for execution, and the activities
it
involves. A first rough overview of this phase is being developed on
Meta.
Take a look! [2]
On a different note, we have completed the move into our new office space at One Montgomery Tower![3] Once again, thank you to everyone on staff
who
was involved in making the move so seamless, and to all of you for your patience over the past couple of weeks. Later this month, once we are
more
settled in, we will be sharing photos and information about our new space on the Wikimedia Blog.
Stay tuned!
መልካም ቀን። (Amharic translation: “Have a nice day”),
Katherine
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_ movement/2017/People/Drafting_Group [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_2030/Process_planning [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_headquarters _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Hello Nicole,
Thank you. I just wonder - if the rest is presented this way, people might think that it belongs to the direction, and what the relationship between both is. And I'm afraid, that later the Foundation will claim that the rest is important or an important (authoritative) interpretation that will influence the following discussions. There will be confusion what exactly is endorsed an can be used (abused) in those following discussions.
For example, I am very concerned that the "oral traditions" are still in the game, especially as Guillaume emphasized that he still wants to go this way.
Kind regards Ziko
2017-10-21 1:52 GMT+02:00 Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de:
Hi Ziko,
Quick response regarding the endorsement: We will ask people to only endorse the strategic direction in the green box and the short section underneath with the next steps.
Hope that helps.
Best regards, Nicole
On 21 October 2017 at 01:02, Ziko van Dijk zvandijk@gmail.com wrote:
2017-10-20 23:10 GMT+02:00 Katherine Maher kmaher@wikimedia.org:
I am optimistic that this strategic direction provides every individual
and
entity within the Wikimedia movement something to be excited about.
Hello, it is not about what I might be excited about - I wonder in which ways the document will be used in a way I find problematic for the community.
I am still curious about the links in the "See also" section:
- Appendix
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_ movement/2017/Direction/Appendix: More information about the process, research, and findings that led to this outcome.
- A report of findings
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_ movement/2017/Findings is being written and many references on this page will be updated to point to its content.
Are those (and the footnotes) part of the "direction" document? Will
people
who endorse the document also endorse them?
Kind regards,
Ziko
Beginning on October 26, we will be asking for individual contributors
and
organized groups to endorse this new strategic direction for our
movement.
I encourage you to spend the intervening days discussing this direction
and
determining if you and/or your group will be endorsing it. You will
find
more information about the endorsement day and the process on the direction’s meta page next week.
The endorsement concludes phase 1 of the process, and we are currently drafting the next steps of the process. The main goal of phase 2 will
be
to
answer the question "How do we implement the strategic direction",
which
means identifying the resources needed for execution, and the
activities
it
involves. A first rough overview of this phase is being developed on
Meta.
Take a look! [2]
On a different note, we have completed the move into our new office
space
at One Montgomery Tower![3] Once again, thank you to everyone on staff
who
was involved in making the move so seamless, and to all of you for your patience over the past couple of weeks. Later this month, once we are
more
settled in, we will be sharing photos and information about our new
space
on the Wikimedia Blog.
Stay tuned!
መልካም ቀን። (Amharic translation: “Have a nice day”),
Katherine
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_ movement/2017/People/Drafting_Group [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_2030/Process_planning [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_headquarters _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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Hi Ziko,
Just a quick reaction to the last sentence of your message where you express your concern about oral traditions as a source and say 'Guillaume emphasized that he still wants to go this way.'
To some, this could give the impression that Guillaume is responsible for what went in the text and what did not. As Katherine mentioned in her message, drafting the strategic direction was a group process. (FYI, I was part of that group) Guillaume had the unenviable task of making sense of all the suggestions, input and comments, and produce meaningful and readable text. Frankly, I don't know anyone who could have done that job better. So, it is not so much that 'Guillaume still wants to go this way', but rather 'the drafting group believes the movement-wide consultation points this way.'
I understand your concerns - and I know that they come from your deep commitment to the quality and the reliability of the Wikimedia projects. Your comments have already started some interesting discussions - on this list and in other places - about how oral traditions/sources could and should be used in a responsible way.
Best regards,
Sandra Rientjes Directeur/Executive Director Wikimedia Nederland
2017-10-21 14:20 GMT+02:00 Ziko van Dijk zvandijk@gmail.com:
Hello Nicole,
Thank you. I just wonder - if the rest is presented this way, people might think that it belongs to the direction, and what the relationship between both is. And I'm afraid, that later the Foundation will claim that the rest is important or an important (authoritative) interpretation that will influence the following discussions. There will be confusion what exactly is endorsed an can be used (abused) in those following discussions.
For example, I am very concerned that the "oral traditions" are still in the game, especially as Guillaume emphasized that he still wants to go this way.
Kind regards Ziko
2017-10-21 1:52 GMT+02:00 Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de:
Hi Ziko,
Quick response regarding the endorsement: We will ask people to only endorse the strategic direction in the green box and the short section underneath with the next steps.
Hope that helps.
Best regards, Nicole
On 21 October 2017 at 01:02, Ziko van Dijk zvandijk@gmail.com wrote:
2017-10-20 23:10 GMT+02:00 Katherine Maher kmaher@wikimedia.org:
I am optimistic that this strategic direction provides every
individual
and
entity within the Wikimedia movement something to be excited about.
Hello, it is not about what I might be excited about - I wonder in
which
ways the document will be used in a way I find problematic for the community.
I am still curious about the links in the "See also" section:
- Appendix
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_ movement/2017/Direction/Appendix: More information about the process, research, and findings that led
to
this outcome.
- A report of findings
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_ movement/2017/Findings is being written and many references on this page will be updated to point to its content.
Are those (and the footnotes) part of the "direction" document? Will
people
who endorse the document also endorse them?
Kind regards,
Ziko
Beginning on October 26, we will be asking for individual
contributors
and
organized groups to endorse this new strategic direction for our
movement.
I encourage you to spend the intervening days discussing this
direction
and
determining if you and/or your group will be endorsing it. You will
find
more information about the endorsement day and the process on the direction’s meta page next week.
The endorsement concludes phase 1 of the process, and we are
currently
drafting the next steps of the process. The main goal of phase 2 will
be
to
answer the question "How do we implement the strategic direction",
which
means identifying the resources needed for execution, and the
activities
it
involves. A first rough overview of this phase is being developed on
Meta.
Take a look! [2]
On a different note, we have completed the move into our new office
space
at One Montgomery Tower![3] Once again, thank you to everyone on
staff
who
was involved in making the move so seamless, and to all of you for
your
patience over the past couple of weeks. Later this month, once we are
more
settled in, we will be sharing photos and information about our new
space
on the Wikimedia Blog.
Stay tuned!
መልካም ቀን። (Amharic translation: “Have a nice day”),
Katherine
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_ movement/2017/People/Drafting_Group [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_2030/Process_planning [3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_
headquarters
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Hello Sandra,
Thank you for your mail. For me, this is not specifically about Guillaume. I referred to him as he has answered to me about "oral traditions", supporting them.
I know that the way to this text was a long one; I have read papers on this way and was appalled. Now I find it difficult not to believe that this is a slippery slope.
Kind regards, Ziko
2017-10-21 18:14 GMT+02:00 Sandra Rientjes - Wikimedia Nederland < rientjes@wikimedia.nl>:
Hi Ziko,
Just a quick reaction to the last sentence of your message where you express your concern about oral traditions as a source and say 'Guillaume emphasized that he still wants to go this way.'
To some, this could give the impression that Guillaume is responsible for what went in the text and what did not. As Katherine mentioned in her message, drafting the strategic direction was a group process. (FYI, I was part of that group) Guillaume had the unenviable task of making sense of all the suggestions, input and comments, and produce meaningful and readable text. Frankly, I don't know anyone who could have done that job better. So, it is not so much that 'Guillaume still wants to go this way', but rather 'the drafting group believes the movement-wide consultation points this way.'
I understand your concerns - and I know that they come from your deep commitment to the quality and the reliability of the Wikimedia projects. Your comments have already started some interesting discussions - on this list and in other places - about how oral traditions/sources could and should be used in a responsible way.
Best regards,
Sandra Rientjes Directeur/Executive Director Wikimedia Nederland
2017-10-21 14:20 GMT+02:00 Ziko van Dijk zvandijk@gmail.com:
Hello Nicole,
Thank you. I just wonder - if the rest is presented this way, people
might
think that it belongs to the direction, and what the relationship between both is. And I'm afraid, that later the Foundation will claim that the
rest
is important or an important (authoritative) interpretation that will influence the following discussions. There will be confusion what exactly is endorsed an can be used (abused) in those following discussions.
For example, I am very concerned that the "oral traditions" are still in the game, especially as Guillaume emphasized that he still wants to go
this
way.
Kind regards Ziko
2017-10-21 1:52 GMT+02:00 Nicole Ebber nicole.ebber@wikimedia.de:
Hi Ziko,
Quick response regarding the endorsement: We will ask people to only endorse the strategic direction in the green box and the short section underneath with the next steps.
Hope that helps.
Best regards, Nicole
On 21 October 2017 at 01:02, Ziko van Dijk zvandijk@gmail.com wrote:
2017-10-20 23:10 GMT+02:00 Katherine Maher kmaher@wikimedia.org:
I am optimistic that this strategic direction provides every
individual
and
entity within the Wikimedia movement something to be excited about.
Hello, it is not about what I might be excited about - I wonder in
which
ways the document will be used in a way I find problematic for the community.
I am still curious about the links in the "See also" section:
- Appendix
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_ movement/2017/Direction/Appendix: More information about the process, research, and findings that
led
to
this outcome.
- A report of findings
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_ movement/2017/Findings is being written and many references on this page will be updated
to
point to its content.
Are those (and the footnotes) part of the "direction" document? Will
people
who endorse the document also endorse them?
Kind regards,
Ziko
Beginning on October 26, we will be asking for individual
contributors
and
organized groups to endorse this new strategic direction for our
movement.
I encourage you to spend the intervening days discussing this
direction
and
determining if you and/or your group will be endorsing it. You will
find
more information about the endorsement day and the process on the direction’s meta page next week.
The endorsement concludes phase 1 of the process, and we are
currently
drafting the next steps of the process. The main goal of phase 2
will
be
to
answer the question "How do we implement the strategic direction",
which
means identifying the resources needed for execution, and the
activities
it
involves. A first rough overview of this phase is being developed
on
Meta.
Take a look! [2]
On a different note, we have completed the move into our new office
space
at One Montgomery Tower![3] Once again, thank you to everyone on
staff
who
was involved in making the move so seamless, and to all of you for
your
patience over the past couple of weeks. Later this month, once we
are
more
settled in, we will be sharing photos and information about our new
space
on the Wikimedia Blog.
Stay tuned!
መልካም ቀን። (Amharic translation: “Have a nice day”),
Katherine
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_ movement/2017/People/Drafting_Group [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_2030/Process_
planning
headquarters
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