On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Gerard Meijssen
<gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Hoi,
The expert is anything but anonymous. What I gave you is the reason why we
do not have a public mailing list. The arguments as they happened have been
published. There is nothing more.
You have to appreciate that for us it is also a hobby. The policy is as it
is to prevent endless bickering and to provide a predictable result. This
is
what we do. When people are against on principle, there is no point in
further discussion. They are against on principle and will use any argument
to get their way.
Yet LangCom is also to be held at fault. Some members of said committee
have adopted a stance of "those are the rules, no exceptions. If you don't
like
the rules, get consensus to change them."
Sometimes rules can be bent, sometimes they should be broken entirely.
It all comes down to using common sense.
I care for languages, I care for projects to do well. Any language. I have
no reasons to treat languages differently and the policy and the
implementation of the policy proves this.
Sometimes I think you care more for minority languages than the speakers
do themselves. This is a good thing! We need more people caring about
languages.
People who oppose have their
special interest at heart. They are welcome to their position but it does
not make for predictable results if we give in to all the bleeding hearts.
God forbid we show some empathy...
In the end you will only hear from people who do not get their way. The
people who are happy with the results of the policy you do not hear.
Of course. Complainers are always louder than those grateful. Fact of
human nature.
In the mean time the Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia has been approved 82 days
ago. I think if there is one problem with policies like the language
policy,
it is that they are not effectively supported by the Wikimedia Foundation.
I
think the waiting for the creation of projects is a disgrace. This is not
specific to this project, it has been a constant struggle to get projects
created.
As you said above, the LangCom is volunteers. So are most of the
developers and systems administrators. They have lives too :-)
-Chad