I have taken up the /Staff section of of the grant application. Having consulted with others the best way to do this seems to be for anyone willing to help with the grant to send a résumé to reflection@gmail.com. I will compile them. Please tailor your experiences/education towards relevancy to WikiMedia.
We are especially interested in résumés from developers and bureaucrats, but all are necessarily welcome. All Board members are asked to submit. In addition, we need as many people as possible to answer the following questions. Please do not reply to the mailing list, but to reflection@gmail.com This will prevent clutter and will maintain your privacy/anonymity.
1) What is your full name and nickname? (Include a URL to your user page).
2) Describe your duties at Wikipedia and qualifications for those duties. If you have a title what is your title, and how long have you held it.
3) Indicate the amount of time that you, the projects staff, anticipate committing to the project on a monthly basis (hours), and for how many months, years.
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- Re: NEH grant (Daniel Mayer)
- Re: Re: NEH grant (Daniel Mayer)
- Re: Re: NEH grant (Daniel Mayer)
- Re: Re: NEH grant (Daniel Mayer)
- Status of logo copyright (Angela_)
- Re: NEH grant (Michael Snow)
- Re: Status of logo copyright (Imran Ghory)
- Re: Status of logo copyright (Imran Ghory)
- Wikimedia Foundation Meeting, 4 July 2004 (Angela_)
Message: 1 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 00:52:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Mayer maveric149@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] NEH grant To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@wikimedia.org Message-ID: 20040709075246.29141.qmail@web51608.mail.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
--- Sj 2.718281828@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 14:28:46 -0700 (PDT), Christopher Mahan And we should renew our efforts to get support through donation, no matter what. Demonstrating a strong ongoing base of community support will help overcome the obstacle of not yet being a proper 501c3.
I completely agree.
I agree wholeheartedly with this:
I would rather mav publish a monthly budget and post that to the front page, like this:
A monthly budget will require a monthly trustee meeting to approve such a document before posting. But doing so on the front page of any Wikimedia website seems to be like begging to me (or at least too much emphasis on financial matters). A permanent link and/or mention on the fundraising page along with a temporary mention on every page during fund drives seems to be enough, IMO.
We should spur donations right away. I hope we are planning to get new machines in the coming week(s?); we need to replace the money we are spending. $2500 a month sounds like a reasonable budget estimate for the rest of the year, and I think we could easily meet that need through contributions.
I have forecasted that we will need to spend between $25,000 to $30,000 on hardware this quarter to keep up with the projected increase in traffic over last quarter. If our growth rate continues at 90% compounded quarterly, then we should expect to have to spend a bit less than twice that amount in Q4.
Things get a bit scary after that if we continue growing at the same rate (I'm still working on mitigating factors such as Moores law and still need to check with the developers to see if page requests, visits, or something else are a better measure of traffic - I've been using page requests).
In short - $2500 per month will not be enough.
Also, with all those servers the need for a full time on-site server admin increases.
Daniel Mayer, Wikimedia CFO
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Message: 2 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 01:14:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Mayer maveric149@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Re: NEH grant To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@wikimedia.org Message-ID: 20040709081418.99181.qmail@web51602.mail.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
--- Michael Snow wikipedia@earthlink.net wrote:
... However, it would be nice to see more frequent updates just about fundraising progress, which is what this suggestion focuses on. Those who are particularly interested in this should be encouraged to donate the funds necessary so that we can start paying Mav a salary. Otherwise, it's unfair to expect anyone to assume that burden.
Actually please don't donate money for that - giving me money will not increase the number of hours in the day or reduce the number of hours I need to sleep (Wikipedia/Wikimedia is nearly a second full time job for me). Also, doing so would only add a small incentive for me to do more work in this area since I strongly suspect that such pay would pale in comparison to what I now receive as a GIS specialist (thus I would have to keep my day job). A full time server admin is far more important.
More voluneers welcome in the finance department. :)
-- mav
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Message: 3 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 01:14:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Mayer maveric149@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Re: NEH grant To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@wikimedia.org Message-ID: 20040709081425.83878.qmail@web51606.mail.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
--- Michael Snow wikipedia@earthlink.net wrote:
... However, it would be nice to see more frequent updates just about fundraising progress, which is what this suggestion focuses on. Those who are particularly interested in this should be encouraged to donate the funds necessary so that we can start paying Mav a salary. Otherwise, it's unfair to expect anyone to assume that burden.
Actually please don't donate money for that - giving me money will not increase the number of hours in the day or reduce the number of hours I need to sleep (Wikipedia/Wikimedia is nearly a second full time job for me). Also, doing so would only add a small incentive for me to do more work in this area since I strongly suspect that such pay would pale in comparison to what I now receive as a GIS specialist (thus I would have to keep my day job). A full time server admin is far more important.
More voluneers welcome in the finance department. :)
-- mav
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Message: 4 Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 01:14:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Mayer maveric149@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Re: NEH grant To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List foundation-l@wikimedia.org Message-ID: 20040709081432.45409.qmail@web51610.mail.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
--- Michael Snow wikipedia@earthlink.net wrote:
... However, it would be nice to see more frequent updates just about fundraising progress, which is what this suggestion focuses on. Those who are particularly interested in this should be encouraged to donate the funds necessary so that we can start paying Mav a salary. Otherwise, it's unfair to expect anyone to assume that burden.
Actually please don't donate money for that - giving me money will not increase the number of hours in the day or reduce the number of hours I need to sleep (Wikipedia/Wikimedia is nearly a second full time job for me). Also, doing so would only add a small incentive for me to do more work in this area since I strongly suspect that such pay would pale in comparison to what I now receive as a GIS specialist (thus I would have to keep my day job). A full time server admin is far more important.
More voluneers welcome in the finance department. :)
-- mav
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Message: 5 Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 07:30:01 +0100 From: Angela_ beesley@gmail.com Subject: [Foundation-l] Status of logo copyright To: foundation-l@wikipedia.org Message-ID: 8b722b800407092330124c7035@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
(forwarded from wikipedia-l)
--- David Friedland david@nohat.net wrote on wikipedia-l
Before I left on my unannounced wikivacation, Jimbo e-mailed me about the copyright logo. He seemed to be under the impression that I had assigned my rights to the logo to the Wikimedia foundation, but I don't believe that I had.
I am happy to assign my copyrights over the logo to the Wikimedia Foundation. However, I am unsure how to do that in a binding way. Furthermore, I don't believe that the Foundation actually owns any copyrights yet and I have some questions about how this will be handled. Has anyone else assigned their copyrights to the Foundation? Are there policies about how the foundation is going to handle the copyrights it holds? What benefit would there be to my assigning the copyright to the foundation rather than just licensing it at no cost for various purposes?
As I said, I am happy to assign the copyrights to the foundation, but I want to be sure of what I am doing before I jump in and do it, because there are no "take-backs" in the world of copyright.
- David Friedland
David, it's great to hear you are happy to do this. As far as I know, the only copyrights assigned to the Foundation so far are those of Jimbo and certain edits by Bomis staff. The Foundation doesn't currently have any policies on the handling of its copyrights. I don't know how binding making an informal assignment on the mailing list would be; perhaps a lawyer could advise whether you need to physically sign something.
In terms of benefits, for the Foundation, owning the copyright would be easier than having a licence, as it means it is free to do what it likes with the logo, rather than having any restrictions that might cause problems later on. I'm not sure what the benefits to you are though, other than not having to worry about writing a licence, and not having the Foundation bothering you in years to come about whether they can use the logo for some purpose not originally mentioned in the licence.
Angela (just my thoughts, not on behalf of Wikimedia)
Message: 6 Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 08:55:16 -0700 From: Michael Snow wikipedia@earthlink.net Subject: [Foundation-l] Re: NEH grant To: foundation-l@wikimedia.org Message-ID: 40F01164.5090200@earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Daniel Mayer wrote:
--- Michael Snow <wikipedia at earthlink.net http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l> wrote:
... However, it would be nice to see more frequent updates just about fundraising progress, which is what this suggestion focuses on. Those who are particularly interested in this should be encouraged to donate the funds necessary so that we can start paying Mav a salary. Otherwise, it's unfair to expect anyone to assume that burden.
Actually please don't donate money for that - giving me money will not increase the number of hours in the day or reduce the number of hours I need to sleep (Wikipedia/Wikimedia is nearly a second full time job for me). Also, doing so would only add a small incentive for me to do more work in this area since I strongly suspect that such pay would pale in comparison to what I now receive as a GIS specialist (thus I would have to keep my day job). A full time server admin is far more important.
Sorry, I meant that to be tongue-in-cheek, not as a particularly serious suggestion (yet). My point was mostly that if people have expectations like that, they need to consider whether they're prepared to contribute what's necessary to make it possible. There's only so much you can "require" from volunteers. And I agree that for the future day when we start hiring salaried employees, a server admin is a bigger priority.
--Michael Snow
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