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Lodewijk

10 Jan 10 Jan

10:56 a.m.

This sounds silly, but somehow it seems quite hard to unsubscribe from this group, if you have multiple google accounts (google thinks you're trying to unsubscribe with an account that is not subscribed etc). The previous time this happened, it has been reported to google dozens of times without anything being done. I hope your direct contact has more effect... Lodewijk On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Luis Villa <lvilla(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

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On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Karthik Nadar <karthikndr(a)wikimedia.in> wrote:

I think it will be better if most of us can "Report the Group".

Yes, please do this. We're also talking with Google about trying to resolve the issue, but my understanding is that reporting that you've been fraudulently subscribed will help move that conversation along. [Same applies to the fake gender-gap list.] Thanks- Luis -- Luis Villa Deputy General Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6810 *This message may be confidential or legally privileged. If you have received it by accident, please delete it and let us know about the mistake. As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. For more on what this means, please see our legal disclaimer <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer>.* _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

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rubin.happy

5:18 p.m.

I was resubscribed, too. rubin16 2015-01-10 19:12 GMT+03:00 Luis Villa <lvilla(a)wikimedia.org>rg>:

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On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 1:56 AM, Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org> wrote:

This sounds silly, but somehow it seems quite hard to unsubscribe from

this

group, if you have multiple google accounts (google thinks you're trying

to

unsubscribe with an account that is not subscribed etc). The previous time this happened, it has been reported to google dozens of times without anything being done. I hope your direct contact has more effect...

I'll pass that on. Also, if anyone has reports of being resubscribed after unsubscribing (I've already seen two?) please let me know. Luis

Lodewijk On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Luis Villa <lvilla(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Karthik Nadar <karthikndr(a)wikimedia.in

wrote:

I think it will be better if most of us can "Report the Group".

Yes, please do this. We're also talking with Google about trying to

resolve

the issue, but my understanding is that reporting that you've been fraudulently subscribed will help move that conversation along. [Same applies to the fake gender-gap list.] Thanks- Luis -- Luis Villa Deputy General Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6810 *This message may be confidential or legally privileged. If you have received it by accident, please delete it and let us know about the mistake. As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for,

community

members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. For

more

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Nathan

6:17 p.m.

As was I. On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Sydney Poore <sydney.poore(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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I was resubscribed. Sydney Sydney Poore User:FloNight Wikipedian in Residence at Cochrane Collaboration On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 11:18 AM, rubin.happy <rubin.happy(a)gmail.com> wrote:

I was resubscribed, too. rubin16 2015-01-10 19:12 GMT+03:00 Luis Villa <lvilla(a)wikimedia.org>rg>:

On Sat, Jan 10, 2015 at 1:56 AM, Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org

> wrote: > > > This sounds silly, but somehow it seems quite hard to unsubscribe

from

this > group, if you have multiple google accounts (google thinks you're

trying > to > > unsubscribe with an account that is not subscribed etc). > > > > The previous time this happened, it has been reported to google

dozens

of > > times without anything being done. I hope your direct contact has

more

effect...

I'll pass that on. Also, if anyone has reports of being resubscribed

after

unsubscribing (I've already seen two?) please let me know. Luis > > Lodewijk > > On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 6:35 PM, Luis Villa <lvilla(a)wikimedia.org>

wrote:

> > > On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Karthik Nadar <

karthikndr(a)wikimedia.in > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I think it will be better if most of us can "Report the Group". > > > > > > > > > Yes, please do this. We're also talking with Google about trying to > > resolve > > > the issue, but my understanding is that reporting that you've been > > > fraudulently subscribed will help move that conversation along. > > > > > > [Same applies to the fake gender-gap list.] > > > > > > Thanks- > > > Luis > > > > > > -- > > > Luis Villa > > > Deputy General Counsel > > > Wikimedia Foundation > > > 415.839.6885 ext. 6810 > > > > > > *This message may be confidential or legally privileged. If you

have

> > received it by accident, please delete it and let us know about the > > mistake. As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for

legal/ethical > > > reasons I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, > > community > > > members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity.

For

> more > > on what this means, please see our legal disclaimer > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer>.* > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe:

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Cristian Consonni

11 Jan 11 Jan

2:36 p.m.

2015-01-10 10:56 GMT+01:00 Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org>rg>:

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This sounds silly, but somehow it seems quite hard to unsubscribe from this group, if you have multiple google accounts (google thinks you're trying to unsubscribe with an account that is not subscribed etc).

(sorry for the maybe even sillier answer) Have you tried logging out and/or uising different browsers? Cristian

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Rui Correia

2:54 p.m.

Would it not be more practical to ask the list owner at Google to kill his list and create a new one with a new name and to NOT add members without their permission? Rui 2015-01-11 15:39 GMT+02:00 Bence Damokos <bdamokos(a)gmail.com>om>:

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I found the same issue. The best thing to do is to send a letter to the unsubscribe address from your various adresses (change the from field in Gmail), and it should do it. (Doesn't work for the "opt out" option for resubscribing.) Best regards, Bence On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Cristian Consonni <kikkocristian(a)gmail.com> wrote:

2015-01-10 10:56 GMT+01:00 Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org>rg>:

This sounds silly, but somehow it seems quite hard to unsubscribe from

this

group, if you have multiple google accounts (google thinks you're trying

to

unsubscribe with an account that is not subscribed etc).

(sorry for the maybe even sillier answer) Have you tried logging out and/or uising different browsers? Cristian _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

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Dan Garry

7:48 a.m.

If people are being resubscribed after having unsubscribed, apparently changing your settings here will stop that from happening: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!optout I was subscribed by them and was kind of amused by the disaster and level of paranoia on these lists for a while, so I didn't bother unsubscribing. Now that someone is just copy-pasting articles about Wikipedia that are years old to one of the newer lists, it's sufficiently boring for me to unsubscribe. Dan On 9 January 2015 at 09:35, Luis Villa <lvilla(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

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On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Karthik Nadar <karthikndr(a)wikimedia.in> wrote:

I think it will be better if most of us can "Report the Group".

Yes, please do this. We're also talking with Google about trying to resolve the issue, but my understanding is that reporting that you've been fraudulently subscribed will help move that conversation along. [Same applies to the fake gender-gap list.] Thanks- Luis -- Luis Villa Deputy General Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6810 *This message may be confidential or legally privileged. If you have received it by accident, please delete it and let us know about the mistake. As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. For more on what this means, please see our legal disclaimer <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer>.* _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

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Enock Seth Nyamador

1:17 p.m.

Hi Lodewijk, The optout didn't work for me too. Did you try unsubscribing by using the other option provided below optout in the mails. That is send a blank mail to the unsubscribe address and this should work. It worked for me though. Best, - Enock twitter: @Enock4seth enockseth.blogspot.com | [[User:Enock4seth]] On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 12:04 PM, Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org> wrote:

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Hi Dan, unfortunately several people use multiple email addresses, and this optout doesn't work properly if that is the case - because when you go to that link, google insists that you want to unsubscribe with your gmail address (which might not be the one you have been subscribed with). Right now, I'm just marking all emails as spam - hoping that this won't affect the very similarly layouted real wikimedia-l messages. Lodewijk On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 7:48 AM, Dan Garry <dgarry(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

If people are being resubscribed after having unsubscribed, apparently changing your settings here will stop that from happening: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!optout I was subscribed by them and was kind of amused by the disaster and level of paranoia on these lists for a while, so I didn't bother unsubscribing. Now that someone is just copy-pasting articles about Wikipedia that are years old to one of the newer lists, it's sufficiently boring for me to unsubscribe. Dan On 9 January 2015 at 09:35, Luis Villa <lvilla(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Karthik Nadar <karthikndr(a)wikimedia.in

wrote:

I think it will be better if most of us can "Report the Group".

Yes, please do this. We're also talking with Google about trying to

resolve

the issue, but my understanding is that reporting that you've been fraudulently subscribed will help move that conversation along. [Same applies to the fake gender-gap list.] Thanks- Luis -- Luis Villa Deputy General Counsel Wikimedia Foundation 415.839.6885 ext. 6810 *This message may be confidential or legally privileged. If you have received it by accident, please delete it and let us know about the mistake. As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for,

community

members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. For

more

on what this means, please see our legal disclaimer <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer>.* _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

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