Dear All, I already put the page on Peer Review (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Peer_review/South_Tyrol) based on how much I edited the article (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=South_Tyrol&diff=21263326&…)0787287). I know I still could add more, but I still wanted to make sure I am on the right track, since this is out of the ordinary of me to work on Italian articles. Regards, Zachary Harden (en:User:Zscout370)

Maybe this is the moment to introduce a thought I had some weeks ago. Some of us use wikipedia articles for personal websites - sometimes mixed with free and commercial content. At a certain stage I myself realised that I would like to see an article about the region where I live in another language - this would be important not only for me, but for hotels in this region as well. That's when the idea of wikitranslations came about. Consider that when I translate an article for wikipedia it takes away time I could sell my professional services that are translations - I am not going to talk about my money here, but it is a general consideration. So at a first stage I thought about me paying for having translations done - I would like to see Chinese, Russian, Ucrainian, Japanese etc., but I cannot afford to pay "normal prices" for free content translations as if I would do this this would mean I had to translate also much more myself selling and so I could not have the time to definitely contribute. I then set up a small website - still to be finished in its idea, still to be completed, but I wanted it to be there to remind me on that theme: http://wikitranslations.com/ Then going ahead thanks to a friend I found out that on the German wikipedia people already did "if you do for me I will do for you", "if you do for me I will give you". When talking about contents we can also think about companies that maybe would feature an article paying it ... why not? It is a contribution as well and we can get things done. And why not say: if you want this article to be translated you also have to give something of something that is important to other projects? Example: I have an article translated into English (and really this is not "so much needed") - in addition to that I pay for another article in any of the languages that are "important to develop" - so everyone is happy. I also wrote some thoughts on my portal for translators - a place where I hope we can start to insert "we need this/that for this amount of money" and where direct contacts will be created ... and at a certain stage maybe also new contributors to the projects. http://www.wesolveitnet.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=71&for… There's still so much to consider ... like always: the day has only 24 hours ... sigh ... anyone for a vote to triple the hours of the day??? Ciao, Sabine ___________________________________ Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB http://mail.yahoo.it

What is NPOV? Thanks for your note. I'm all for getting paid too, but nobody will placed under duress to assist. I was actually thinking that this area would be put together by the industrial design community (and available to all) without regard to financial incentive. The Wikipedia format seems to me to be an ideal format for this project. This is a worthwhile project and we need assistance. The question is whether Wikipedia, whose systems are in place, is going to fulfill that role. Steven ----- Original Message ----- From: "Walter van Kalken" <walter(a)vankalken.net> To: "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List" <foundation-l(a)wikimedia.org> Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 3:51 PM Subject: >>: Re: [Foundation-l] Re: 300 Euro -> grey market...