geni schrieb: Hmmm ... that would mean that there is a lot of pessimism around ... fact is: we will try and need to reach also people who normally did not donate or did not even note/know that there is a fundraiser and we will need to do this in one or the other way. I would prefer the one way ... if I have to consider other ways, well ... I don't really want to consider it, for now I still believe in the community that is invited to play its part. Thanks, Sabine

geni wrote: How can we prove that things will happen this time, if there is no help to make them happen ?

Thomas Dalton wrote: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising_2007/Buttons_and_banners_to_be_t… Quote: we need help for the fundraiser and therefore contact all communities for different things to do. This time I am searching the graphics enthusiasts among you who would like to contribute with a Button or Banner for the Fundraiser that people then could use for their Blogs, Homepages etc. to show that they support the projects of the Wikimedia Foundation. If you have fun in designing your button or banner: please do so.

Hi Anthere, thanks for your help in explaining :-) Hi Titoxd, thanks, I will contact them. Probably late this evening. Today is quite a special day here: the first day of school of my twins ... so I am here and not here if you understand what I mean. So until this evening it will be quite difficult to finish what I am writing on right now. Cheers, Sabine

I'm pretty sure that they'll make something more subtle if requested... By the way, I've thrown my hat into the mix and made an image for the fundraiser. I've uploaded it to Commons: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Wikimedia_Fundraiser_2007.png (I'm using this email to release any copyright I may have and granting it to the Foundation as well.) Hopefully you guys will like it. :) Titoxd. -----Original Message----- From: foundation-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:foundation-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Cary Bass Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 5:19 AM To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] [FR 07] Fundraiser 2007 -Responsiveness ofCommunity Titoxd@Wikimedia wrote: with I have noticed the people involved in this project, and have contacted some of them directly. I will continue to do so. The only thing is, that we don't want so many blinking banners, and probably a lot more subdued graphics. I have a blog myself, and wouldn't care to put something in there that blinks and constantly distracts. -Cary _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

On 9/19/07, Tim 'avatar' Bartel <wikipedia(a)computerkultur.org> wrote: As a clarification: It specifiically violates the sentence "Note that no derivative of the Wikimedia logo can be published without prior approval from the Foundation." Anyway, isn't this why we have a Community logo (http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Wikimedia_Community_Logo.svg) which can be used without approval and without following the Foundation Logo guidelines? Michael

On 9/19/07, GerardM <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote: I didn't say the foundation would say no, I just said that actually the aim of the Community Logo was (as far as I remember) to provide a logo which can be quickly and without legal restrictions be used by anyone and from which free derivatives can be created. Michael

Nod. It seems an evidence to me :-) Titoxd, thank you for the banner. Looking at it, an issue came to my mind. If we put such a banner, for example on blogs, how many people will realise that this is about Wikipedia ? I know it is probably not politically correct to say that (grin), but would it not be more efficient to do such banner with a wikipedia logo ? (or to somehow use the logo somewhere or the name ?) ant Titoxd@Wikimedia wrote:

On 9/19/07, Michael Bimmler <mbimmler(a)gmail.com> wrote: When I saw it (before reading the guidelines), I thought it was because it was cut off. And then, after reading the guidelines, doesn't it violate "The logo should always be surrounded by margins of at least the size of the red circle's diameter"?

Uh....what? No. Everyone and their dog has heard of Wikipedia. Stop. End Sentence. Significantly fewer people have heard of the WMF and the sister projects. This is evidenced by the significantly lower contribution rates on them. Ask people on the street if they know what wikibooks or wikiversity are. -Dan On Sep 20, 2007, at 4:35 PM, Brian McNeil wrote:

Whoops. I substituted his "that they don't know" for "if they don't know". -Dan On Sep 20, 2007, at 6:48 PM, Thomas Dalton wrote:

Nevermind....my reading comprehension is for the lose. -Dan On Sep 20, 2007, at 6:54 PM, Brian McNeil wrote:

Hi, folks, Sorry for being unavailable for a while, but life has been busy. By the way, based on the suggestions here, I've created a similar banner, including the Wikipedia logo, available on Commons too: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Wikimedia_Fundraiser_2007_with_Wikip edia_Globe.png (Check that the link is only one line, as my mail editor, MS Outlook 2003, does weird things with links) Hopefully you like it... now can we use the banners? :) Titoxd. -----Original Message----- From: foundation-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:foundation-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of GerardM Sent: Friday, September 21, 2007 12:09 AM To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] [FR 07] Fundraiser 2007-ResponsivenessofCommunity Hoi, Maybe in the USA this is true. It is certainly not true in many other countries even though the situation is improving. The notion that the contribution rate on the other projects is less has also a lot to do with the fact that the investment in time is so much bigger; you have to know more before you can add content in Wiktionary for instance. With the increasing amount of "things to know" Wikipedia is becoming more problematic for new users.. This seems not to matter much as the basic facts are largely out in the English language Wikipedia and consequently it has become a great resource. NB Wiktionary, particularly the English language Wiktionary has become more useful and also its ranking has gone up a lot as a consequence :) Thanks, GerardM On 9/21/07, Dan Rosenthal <swatjester(a)gmail.com> wrote: _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Looks nice, just one point... it's missing Wikiversity now :) But an updated version might be cool. BR, Eia 2007/9/28, Walter Vermeir <walter(a)wikipedia.be>be>:

Dmcdevit wrote: Who do I speak to about adding some designs to the unusual items page? This http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Nebraska_Senator_sues_God is the first one that springs to mind, but there's also stuff on Wikinews under cat. Wackynews that might be usable. Brian.

Hi, David, Well, I created the original banner as an SVG in Inkscape, but I couldn't get the text to render with the SVG parser that MediaWiki uses. However, you can see my patchwork here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Undelete/Image:Wikimedia_Fundraiser_200 7.svg The banner including the Wikipedia logo was created only as a PNG, as I couldn't even get the original SVG to work. However, as a general principle, I used the globe image below: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Wikipedia-logo.png Then, using GIMP, I auto-cropped the puzzle logo, and resized it to 1/8th the original height. Finally, I applied a white-to-alpha transparency pass, and then increased brightness to 127 in the image twice. Finally, I pasted it at about the same height as the Wikimedia logo, just so the piece with the "W" would be clearly prominent. If you can make an SVG to work, can you upload it to Commons? Titoxd. -----Original Message----- From: foundation-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:foundation-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of David Gerard Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 4:30 PM To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] [FR 07] Fundraiser 2007-ResponsivenessofCommunity On 27/09/2007, Titoxd@Wikimedia <titoxd.wikimedia(a)gmail.com> wrote: way, the http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Wikimedia_Fundraiser_2007_with_Wikip edia_Globe.png I like it! The Wikipedia logo seems to vanish compared to the WMF logo ... do you have the original SVG or XCF? (Can you upload XCFs to Commons?) - d. _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l