document saying I think that the spirit of an agreement is more important than its wording but I would like to comment both. Regarding the wording, in my opinion what the contract says can be interpreted exactly the other way around. It says that to create another chapter in the same geographical area WMIN will be consulted. [1] It doesn’t say that the approval of WMIN is needed. Furthermore to create an organization different than chapters not even that consultation is foreseen. As for the spirit I feel that the impression that chapters have private ownership of land is a big mistake that can leads us to a situation contrary to our values. This exclusivity is contrary to the spirit of sharing. We are not cultivating potatoes where the owner of the land keeps the potatoes. We give the potatoes away. The more and better people working the land more potatoes can give away. We don’t need land owners, what we need are people working the land. I think these organizations should be happy of having there each other andsee a chance that what one of them can’t do, perhaps will be done by the other. http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Agreement_between_chapters_and_Wikimedi… _______________________________________________ foundation-l mailing list foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/foundation-l

Achal, I don't quite understand what is the idea, meaning or whatever you wrote in your mail. Can you explain (this time with full and meaningful sentences), please? _____ *Béria Lima* <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho.<http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>* On 15 November 2011 14:19, Achal Prabhala&lt;aprabhala(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > Can we not pick on a person whose "POV" is that he wishes to participate > in the Wikimedia movement in the fullest way possible? > > Pick on me instead. Oh wait... > > Best wishes, > Achal > > On Tuesday 15 November 2011 07:40 PM, Béria Lima wrote: >> OMG Gomà, can´t you leave any thread in peace without push your POV? >> _____ >> *Béria Lima* >> <http://wikimedia.pt/>(351) 925 171 484 >> >> *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter >> livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a >> construir esse sonho.<http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos>* >> >> >> On 15 November 2011 09:37, Joan Goma&lt;jrgoma(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: >> >>>> Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:12:42 +0000 >>>> From: B?ria Lima&lt;berialima(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>> Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Fwd: Wikimedia India Program Trust >>>> >>>> *The way I see is India is a land of immense potential for the > Wikimedia >>>>> Movement. IMHO, There is enough space of 10 chapters and Wikimedia >>>> offices >>>>> to co-exist and work together in India.* >>>>> >>>> Did you ever read the Chapter Agreement you signed with WMF? That >>> document >>>> states that WMIN is the ONLY chapter of WMF in India, and that any

>>>> organization must have their "approval" to work in Indian soil (I'm >>> saying >>>> that based in WMPT agreement, WMIN one might be different.) >>>> >>>> >>> I think that the spirit of an agreement is more important than its > wording >>> but >>> I would like to comment both. >>> >>> Regarding the wording, in my opinion what the contract says can be >>> interpreted exactly the other way around. It says that to create

>>> chapter in the same geographical area WMIN will be consulted. [1] It >>> doesn’t say that the approval of WMIN is needed. Furthermore to create > an >>> organization different than chapters not even that consultation is >>> foreseen. >>> >>> As for the spirit I feel that the impression that chapters have

>>> ownership of land is a big mistake that can leads us to a situation >>> contrary to >>> our values. This exclusivity is contrary to the spirit of sharing. We > are >>> not cultivating potatoes where the owner of the land keeps the > potatoes. We >>> give the potatoes away. The more and better people working the land

>>> potatoes can give away. We don’t need land owners, what we need are >>> people working >>> the land. >>> >>> I think these organizations should be happy of having there each other >>> andsee >>> a chance that what one of them can’t do, perhaps will be done by the > other. >>> >>> >>> >>> >

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