23 Nov
2015
23 Nov
'15
9:10 p.m.
This is such a sad news. I have been following news about him and i can't believe
this. This is a black day in the history of Human Civilization. We can indeed do little
things like sharing posts about him and writing about him because that is all we can do
perhaps.
Regards
Satdeep Gill
Punjabi Wikimedians
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 09:02:28 -0800
From: Lila Tretikov <lila(a)wikimedia.org>
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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Free Bassel
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Gerard, this is devastating news. Please send our love to Bassel's family.
I still hope this is not true.
If there is anything we can do from here please let us know.
Lila
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hoi,
I was so afraid when I read that Bassel has been sentenced to death. I read
it on the website of Amnesty International [1]. I blogged about him in the
past [2]. I am sad to say that it is him.
Bassel was active as a Wikimedian, he worked towards making information
available about Palmyra.
If there is anything that we can do, please let us do this.
Thanks,
GerardM
[1]
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-a…
[2]
http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2015/10/freebassel-free-culture-advocate…
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:25:24 +0200
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Some suggestions of things we can do:
1. The list of signatories on the amnesty international website does not
include the WMF, the Wikimedia community, any of our affiliations or any
representation from the Wikimedia movement. I wonder if we can contact them
and request adding any of the above mentioned?
2. Use our SM channels to retweet the WMF blog post [1] about him with the
news that he is sentenced to death.
3. We all try to share supporting tweets on the #FreeBassel hashtag.
[1] http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/
Thanks,
Samir
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Lila Tretikov
<lila(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Gerard, this is devastating news. Please send our love to Bassel's family.
I still hope this is not true.
If there is anything we can do from here please let us know.
Lila
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Gerard Meijssen <
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:43:11 +0200
From: Samir Elsharbaty <selsharbaty(a)wikimedia.org>
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Brane,
I didn't have the pleasure of meeting you but I heard a lot of nice
stories, so, please get well soon because I would like to have this
pleasure!
--
Samir Elsharbaty,
Wikipedia Education Program
Wikimedia Foundation
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Hoi,
I was so afraid when I read that Bassel has been sentenced to death. I
read
it on the website of Amnesty International [1]. I
blogged about him in
the
past [2]. I am sad to say that it is him.
Bassel was active as a Wikimedian, he worked towards making information
available about Palmyra.
If there is anything that we can do, please let us do this.
Thanks,
GerardM
[1]
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-a…
[2]
http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2015/10/freebassel-free-culture-advocate…
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Brane,
Good wishes and get well soon.
Regards.
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 10:00:27 -0800
From: Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com>
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Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Museum v. WMF and WMDE in Commons copyright
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'Tis the season <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deck_the_Halls#Lyrics> for a
lawsuit: https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/11/23/lawsuit-public-domain-art/
Pine
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:17:59 +0100
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Lila, would you be able to somehow contact the Russian government?
On 22 November 2015 at 06:18, Asaf Bartov
<abartov(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
I have had the pleasure of meeting and talking to Brane at some length,
in
Belgrade, in Hong Kong, and perhaps elsewhere
too. He is thoughtful and
dedicated, and as Milos said, has played a huge part in building up
Serbian
Wikipedia and Wikimedia Serbia.
Brane, I wish you a full recovery, and hope to have the chance to see you
again, somewhere in the world or around the wikis.
Regards from the Wikisource gathering in Vienna,
Asaf
rare
On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Milos Rancic
<millosh(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Pine asked me a good question: Where to express support? I think
whatever you think is the most appropriate. This thread works, as
well. His email is branej(a)gmail.com. You have the link to his Facebook
page via WMRS photo. He is using Twitter, as well @branej.
On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 12:40 AM, Milos Rancic <millosh(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>> At some point of time, the best you could do is to reach for a
>> superstition and hope it will work. It doesn't matter how it will be
>> explained after, but at this point of time, it's only that
>> superstition which matters.
>>
>> My particular superstition is that Brane would be able to see his
>> eulogy and that we'll be able to laugh together. You know, it's a >> opportunity to see how your eulogy would
look like, so I hope I am
>> giving it to him.
>>
>> An hour ago I heard that he is in critical condition. At first, I was
>> thinking what should I write after he dies. Then, I realized that I
>> should write it now and post it after. Then, it's come into my mind
>> that I should send it immediately as, at least, I could think about
>> reading with him this eulogy and your comments after he recovers.
>>
>> Since August 2014 he is struggling with bone cancer. His curse is
that
>> his body is so strong, that chemotherapy
is not working yet.
>> Paradoxically, we hope that his body is weak enough now that it will
>> finally accept chemotherapy. Monday would be crucial day for him.
>>
>> He is one of those "invisible" Wikimedians who actually contributed
>> significantly to our movement. Some of you, mostly those who visited
>> Belgrade, know him.
>>
>> He is one of the founders of Wikimedia Serbia. It's a pity that he is
>> in this condition while WMRS is preparing to celebrate its 10th
>> anniversary. Here is our photo from the founding assembly [1].
>>
>> Presently, he is a board member of Wikimedia Serbia.
>>
>> His epic fight for copyright correctness on Serbian Wikipedia created
>> the foundations of the present day strict copyright rules. It's a
>> great achievement for a project of such size and it was possible just
>> because of him.
>>
>> While he was active editor, he was highly trusted Wikipedian and he
>> was administrator, bureaucrat and checkuser on Serbian Wikipedia, as
>> well as on a number of of other projects in Serbian language.
>>
>> Alpha software for transliteration between Cyrillic and Latin scripts
>> of Serbian language in MediaWiki was his work. That was the basis for
>> the future implementation. It was the first software of that kind
>> implemented in one web engine.
>>
>> He is my close friend. Besides a lot of things which he did, which
>> will be mentioned at appropriate time, I want to say that many things
>> which I did wouldn't be possible without his contribution.
>>
>> He is now very exhausted and he won't be able to read this today or
>> tomorrow. However, I am sure he will be able to read it on Monday,
>> after he recovers a bit. So, your support matters, no matter of my
>> superstitious reasons for sending this email.
>>
>> [1]
https://www.facebook.com/wikimedia.rs/photos/a.826279217387658.1073741828.2…
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<mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> On Nov 23, 2015 18:25, "Samir
Elsharbaty" <selsharbaty(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Some suggestions of things we can do:
1. The list of signatories on the amnesty international website does not
include the WMF, the Wikimedia community, any of our affiliations or any
representation from the Wikimedia movement. I wonder if we can contact them
and request adding any of the above mentioned?
2. Use our SM channels to retweet the WMF blog post [1] about him with the
news that he is sentenced to death.
3. We all try to share supporting tweets on the #FreeBassel hashtag.
[1] http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/10/08/bassel-missing-syria/
Thanks,
Samir
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 20:36:22 +0100
From: rupert THURNER <rupert.thurner(a)gmail.com>
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All the best brane!!
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 7:02 PM, Lila Tretikov
<lila(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Gerard, this is devastating news. Please send our love to Bassel's
family.
I still hope this is not true.
If there is anything we can do from here please let us know.
Lila
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 2:12 AM, Gerard Meijssen <
gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
http://www.amnesty.nl/nieuwsportaal/pers/syria-fears-life-free-expression-a…
Hoi,
I was so afraid when I read that Bassel has been sentenced to death. I
read
it on the website of Amnesty International [1]. I
blogged about him in
the
> past [2]. I am sad to say that it is him.
>
> Bassel was active as a Wikimedian, he worked towards making information
> available about Palmyra.
>
> If there is anything that we can do, please let us do this.
> Thanks,
> GerardM
>
> [1] > [2]
http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2015/10/freebassel-free-culture-advocate…
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<mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> On Nov 23, 2015 18:43, "Samir
Elsharbaty" <selsharbaty(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Brane,
I didn't have the pleasure of meeting you but I heard a lot of nice
stories, so, please get well soon because I would like to have this
pleasure!
--
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Wikipedia Education Program
Wikimedia Foundation
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Brane,
Good wishes and get well soon.
Regards.
and
On 22 November 2015 at 06:18, Asaf Bartov
<abartov(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
I have had the pleasure of meeting and talking to Brane at some length,
in
> Belgrade, in Hong Kong, and perhaps elsewhere too. He is thoughtful
dedicated, and as Milos said, has played a huge part in building up
Serbian
> Wikipedia and Wikimedia Serbia.
>
> Brane, I wish you a full recovery, and hope to have the chance to see > again, somewhere in the world or around the
wikis.
>
> Regards from the Wikisource gathering in Vienna,
>
> Asaf
>
> On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Milos Rancic <millosh(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>> Pine asked me a good question: Where to express support? I think
>> whatever you think is the most appropriate. This thread works, as
>> well. His email is branej(a)gmail.com. You have the link to his
Facebook
>> page via WMRS photo. He is using Twitter,
as well @branej.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 12:40 AM, Milos Rancic <millosh(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>> At some point of time, the best you could do is to reach for a
>>> superstition and hope it will work. It doesn't matter how it will
be
>>
explained after, but at this point of time, it's only that
>> superstition which matters.
>>
>> My particular superstition is that Brane would be able to see his
>> eulogy and that we'll be able to laugh together. You know, it's a
rare
>>> opportunity to see how your eulogy would look like, so I hope I am
>>> giving it to him.
>>>
>>> An hour ago I heard that he is in critical condition. At first, I >>
thinking what should I write after he dies. Then, I realized that I
>> should write it now and post it after. Then, it's come into my mind
>> that I should send it immediately as, at least, I could think about
>> reading with him this eulogy and your comments after he recovers.
>>
>> Since August 2014 he is struggling with bone cancer. His curse is
that
>>> his body is so strong, that chemotherapy is not working yet.
>>> Paradoxically, we hope that his body is weak enough now that it >>> finally accept chemotherapy. Monday
would be crucial day for him.
>>>
>>> He is one of those "invisible" Wikimedians who actually
contributed
>>> significantly to our movement. Some of you, mostly those who
visited
>>> Belgrade, know him.
>>>
>>> He is one of the founders of Wikimedia Serbia. It's a pity that he
is
>>> in this condition while WMRS is
preparing to celebrate its 10th
>>> anniversary. Here is our photo from the founding assembly [1].
>>>
>>> Presently, he is a board member of Wikimedia Serbia.
>>>
>>> His epic fight for copyright correctness on Serbian Wikipedia
created
>>> the foundations of the present day
strict copyright rules. It's a
>>> great achievement for a project of such size and it was possible
just
>>> because of him.
>>>
>>> While he was active editor, he was highly trusted Wikipedian and he
>>> was administrator, bureaucrat and checkuser on Serbian Wikipedia,
as
>>> well as on a number of of other
projects in Serbian language.
>>>
>>> Alpha software for transliteration between Cyrillic and Latin
scripts
>>> of Serbian language in MediaWiki was
his work. That was the basis
for
>>> the future implementation. It was the
first software of that kind
>>> implemented in one web engine.
>>>
>>> He is my close friend. Besides a lot of things which he did, which
>>> will be mentioned at appropriate time, I want to say that many
things
>>> which I did wouldn't be possible
without his contribution.
>>>
>>> He is now very exhausted and he won't be able to read this today or
>>> tomorrow. However, I am sure he will be able to read it on Monday,
>>> after he recovers a bit. So, your support matters, no matter of my
>>> superstitious reasons for sending this email.
>>>
>>> [1]
https://www.facebook.com/wikimedia.rs/photos/a.826279217387658.1073741828.2…
>>
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