On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Andy Mabbett &lt;andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk&gt; wrote: (...) Apologies for the thread-split, but this is OT from the original thread. This blog post actually referred to the Mobile Web, where the feature continues to be available (without a map view): http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Nearby The new Android app isn't simply an upgrade of the last version, it's a complete re-write in native code -- one which by all accounts has been extremely well received. In determining the feature set, the team looked at core functionality they really wanted to deliver in the first release, and iterated on that based on user feedback during the beta. We are in the lucky position to now have a team of three full-time developers working on the app to make it continually better. You can see the most recent code changes here: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/apps/android,n,z And a more understandable view of the current sprint in Trello: https://trello.com/b/5DhKhjmW/mobile-app-sprint-35-article-usability-enhanc… So you can expect a pretty fast pace of change. The team prioritized features that were highly requested and popular among users. The "nearby" feature in the old app also relied on third party infrastructure, which makes us a bit uncomfortable from a user privacy and principles perspective. Our plan is to build out our own OpenStreetMap infrastructure later this year which will help in further developing such geo-functionality. CCing Dan (PM for Apps) in case he wants to weigh in on the roadmap. Erik -- Erik Möller VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Pete Forsyth &lt;peteforsyth(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Pete, before making such strong public statements condemning our products, it might help to use them

To your specific points: On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Maryana Pinchuk &lt;mpinchuk(a)wikimedia.org&gt; wrote: Even once the reader gets there, how many clicks does it take to get to a contributor's User Page, where they might state things like their name, and what they like to work on? I went through about 4 clicks and gave up.

The new Android app isn't simply an upgrade of the last version, it's a complete re-write in native code

In determining the feature set, the team looked at core functionality they really wanted to deliver in the first release, and iterated on that based on user feedback during the beta.

"On 11 July 2014 22:34, Erik Moeller &lt;erik(a)wikimedia.org&gt; wrote: This technical nicety is of no interest to most users, whose app was "updated". I didn't participate in this round of the beta, because there was no suggestion in anything that I read that significant - significantly useful - existing functionality would be removed. (Indeed, the removal wasn't mentioned when the "revamped" app was announced by your WMF colleagues.) I did tough, spend some time testing the "nearby" feature in v1's beta https://trello.com/b/5DhKhjmW/mobile-app-sprint-35-article-usability-enhanc… I can't find the string "near" on that page. Is this a blocker for the return of the "nearby" feature to the app? In splitting this thread and describing it as "off topic", you've overlooked that my comments were in the context of - and in response to - your comment about "change-aversion [tending] to correlate pretty strongly with impact on existing workflows and noticeable changes to user experience and behaviour". -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

Until then... http://tools.wmflabs.org/wikishootme/

An answer would be appreciated...