Hi Romaine, Thanks for your comment but I think category like this is not uncommon on Wikimedia projects. We often use it for maintenance and navigation (as you have correctly noted above) and not as part of the encyclopedia. It is different from content category. Thus, we don't include it on content categories. We use it to track the number of articles created as part of a project/contest as well as the number of participants. Let's look at it this way; If I'm participating in 16WikiWomen translation project for example, and I did not include my username on the list of participants on meta, there is no way the organizers would have known that I'm a participant and any article I translate as part of the project would be considered as a routine contribution. Measure of success is important in every project and I think the 16WikiWomen organizers would be interested in knowing the number of articles translated and the number of participants, to measure the success of their project. If there is something like "Category:16WikiWomen" for example, they could visit each language Wikipedia they listed on the project page and search for the category. This would show the number of articles translated and the translators (participants). "Category:Women footballers" - to check for women footballers or number of women footballers. "Category:16WikiWomen" - to check for the number of articles translated or the number of translator. The two above illustrative categories have different scope. Please, correct me if I am wrong. Best, Isaac Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile. -----Original Message----- From: Romaine Wiki <romaine.wiki(a)gmail.com> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 23:46:12 To: <reachout2isaac(a)gmail.com>om>; Wikimedia Mailing List<wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Cc: Florence Devouard<anthere(a)anthere.org> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen Why using a category? Categories are especially useful for navigation purposes or maintenance. A category here seems useless. The only categories that are useful are the ones for categorising women in various ways like profession, country, etc. I hope that kind of categories can be filled with many articles about women in Africa. Romaine 2017-02-20 22:11 GMT+01:00 Olatunde Isaac <reachout2isaac(a)gmail.com>om>:

Thanks for the clarification, Flo. Best, Isaac Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless handheld from Glo Mobile. -----Original Message----- From: Florence Devouard &lt;fdevouard(a)gmail.com&gt; Sender: "Wikimedia-l" &lt;wikimedia-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2017 11:00:03 To: &lt;wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Reply-To: Wikimedia Mailing List &lt;wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Launch of translation drive #16WikiWomen Hmmmm Needs a bit of process clarification here... So here is what we did (I know it is not perfect, but we did within our constraints and own skills). 1. I created a category on the English Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:WikiProject_Wiki_Loves_Women_transla… I categorized the 16 articles from their talk page. This category is simply a maintenance one (not used in the article mainspace) In the future (asap I have the time...), I will rather create a template which will include the above category and replace the category in the talk page by the template. This will allow me to make the information prettier and more explicit (using a logo etc.). But practically... the category is enough. 2. Sam (AfricanHope) wrote a bot : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:CivBot The bot is updating this page to list articles per language : https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/Table It does not use all languages, but only languages listed on this table : https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/languages Where does that list come from ? Well... it includes all languages used at least once in one of the 16 biographies. One thing the bot does NOT do is identify when a new language (not in the list above) is added. I will have to figure that out on the way... it could certainly be automated... at the same time... we talk only of 16 articles to check. So... I may be lazy and just check once a day. But if anyone knows a quick query that is able to tell me "which new language has been added as a new translation version on one of the 16 articles, which is not in the current list"... feel free to contact me ;) 3) There were quite a few already existing articles in various languages. So I have done a quick review of the state of those articles at start. I summarize those state here : https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/16_African_Women_Translate-a-thon/status 4) The inclusion of the username on the meta page is not really to track participants. It is simply a human element, a place where we can meet and share and see which people are interested helping. It is more of a networking place if you want. 5) The complete list of participants is totally findable anytime Isaac. I have not tried to do the query myself yet. It is essentially * list of all usernames * which edited those 16 biographies * in any language (or the sublist above) * between 20th of Feb and the 07 of March We can even rank the result by "number of characters added" (in case we think quantity is a measure of involvement - which I am not fully sure). Or we can rank the result by "number of biographies edited" by participants. ANYONE WILLING TO HELP ON THIS ONE ? <--- get in touch --------- It is nice to consider a category or template to tag the talk page of each article in all language for "community building" reasons (as in "this article participated to the "16WikiWomen translation project"). Because it is simply cool for us together to remember what we did, when we did it, why we did it. It is cool to see who is interested. That's why we stick around doing the things we do. That's the HUMAN element. But, when it comes to tracking...(to measure success), we do not need that category system to know who edited those articles... Big brother ... Anthere Le 21/02/2017 à 00:56, Olatunde Isaac a écrit : _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

The wonders of this community! Love that 160 people contributed to the #16WikiWomen!! On Fri, 17 Mar 2017 at 19:36 Florence Devouard &lt;fdevouard(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: