On 2/6/07, geni <geniice at gmail.com> wrote: wrote: Wikipedia. Geni, I must say, I admire your intellectual consistency, if nothing else. By extension, all Wikimedia logos should also be deleted from Commons since they are unfree. If the community decided to rebel and delete all of WMF's dreadfully unfree logos, I'm sure it would make for some entertaining wikidrama and would certainly address the immediate problem. However, since the logos exist to help foster brand identity and benefit the project, I think a better solution is to set appropriate usage guidelines and allow them to be used by users within the various Wikimedia sites. I don't think it is either hard or burdensome to regard "Copyright by Wikimedia" as an exception to Wikipedia's fair use criteria, and for the most part that has been the going practice since forever. Unfortunately, since the WMF does own the logos, a certain amount of asking permission does seem to make sense, but this thread seems to reveal that the boundaries for what is or is not permitted are largely unresolved at this time. -Robert Rohde ____________________________________________________________________________________ Have a burning question? Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know.