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Sucheta Ghoshal

5 Jan 2015 5 Jan '15

2:30 p.m.

Hi all, A few of my friends and I have been planning to document the history of counterculture in Bengali art and literature. These friends are also working in that domain professionally, and have access to a huge repository of texts, images, and other relevant details that they are willing to make available digitally in the form of free contents. We wish to have the contents as wikis, and, pictures and video snippets that might be involved - as properly licensed free materials. Now, the concern is if there is some Wikimedia Project that would host contents that are based on such an enormous amount of original research. Wikipedia is certainly not the appropriate place. And, as there exist no earlier works on this particular domain on the internet, references would be negligible. I was thinking about Wikibooks, instead. I am not entirely sure if that fits either, but I assume it fits better than Wikipedia, at least. The last option is to host it ourselves with the MediaWiki setup, and I am considering it very much. But, the idea essentially is to make people edit and enrich it with as much inputs as possible. It would be really helpful, in that case, if it could be placed in one of the Wikimedia projects. Suggestions, of every kind, would be deeply appreciated. Best, Sucheta

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Richard Symonds

5 Jan 5 Jan

2:42 p.m.

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This sounds like a Wikisource idea - do we have any wikisourcerers who can give their thoughts? Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 5 January 2015 at 13:30, Sucheta Ghoshal <sucheta.ghoshal(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Craig Franklin

2:48 p.m.

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Wikisource should only be used for material that has already been published elsewhere, it sounds like what's being attempted here is original publishing. One option may be simply to set up your own MediaWiki installation and host such material there. You can therefore set your own licencing rules for the content, and make your own rules about what is and is not allowed. Cheers, Craig Franklin On 5 January 2015 at 23:42, Richard Symonds < richard.symonds(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

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repository

of texts, images, and other relevant details that they are willing to

make

available digitally in the form of free contents. We wish to have the contents as wikis, and, pictures and video snippets that might be

involved

- as properly licensed free materials. Now, the concern is if there is

some

Wikimedia Project that would host contents that are based on such an enormous amount of original research. Wikipedia is certainly not the appropriate place. And, as there exist no earlier works on this

particular

domain on the internet, references would be negligible. I was thinking about Wikibooks, instead. I am not entirely sure if that fits either,

but I

assume it fits better than Wikipedia, at least. The last option is to

host

it ourselves with the MediaWiki setup, and I am considering it very much. But, the idea essentially is to make people edit and enrich it with as

much

inputs as possible. It would be really helpful, in that case, if it could be placed in one of the Wikimedia projects. Suggestions, of every kind, would be deeply appreciated. Best, Sucheta _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

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Andrea Zanni

2:56 p.m.

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The Wikisource dogma is: "If things are published and free, they belong to Wikisource". Unfortunately, there is no Wikimedia project for original research, Sucheta. As an example, some years ago I wanted to host my bachelor thesis (about Wikisource) in a fixed form on Wikisource (and I could do it), but also on a dynamic and collaborative form on Wikibooks. But Wikibooks is for manuals and textbooks, so it's not the right place. IMHO, this issue will get bigger and bigger over the years, and there could be room for another Wikimedia project that would allow open access, collaborative peer review and editing of original research. It could be a sort of new environment between academic publishing and Wikipedia (which now are quite distant for several reasons). Aubrey On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Richard Symonds < richard.symonds(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

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repository

of texts, images, and other relevant details that they are willing to

make

available digitally in the form of free contents. We wish to have the contents as wikis, and, pictures and video snippets that might be

involved

- as properly licensed free materials. Now, the concern is if there is

some

particular

domain on the internet, references would be negligible. I was thinking about Wikibooks, instead. I am not entirely sure if that fits either,

but I

assume it fits better than Wikipedia, at least. The last option is to

host

it ourselves with the MediaWiki setup, and I am considering it very much. But, the idea essentially is to make people edit and enrich it with as

much

Yaroslav M. Blanter

6 Jan 6 Jan

11:57 a.m.

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On 2015-01-05 14:56, Andrea Zanni wrote:

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IMHO, this issue will get bigger and bigger over the years, and there could be room for another Wikimedia project that would allow open access, collaborative peer review and editing of original research. It could be a sort of new environment between academic publishing and Wikipedia (which now are quite distant for several reasons). Aubrey

Whereas there might be some materials which are best hosted at this (not yet in existence) Wikiproject, I am afraid it has a lot of potential to attract conspiracy theorists and all king of adepts of marginal views, so that I am not sure such project should be created (or at least not under the umbrella of WMF). Cheers Yaroslav

Federico Leva (Nemo)

5 Jan 5 Jan

3:04 p.m.

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Sucheta Ghoshal, 05/01/2015 14:30:

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huge repository of texts, images, and other relevant details that they are willing to make available digitally in the form of free contents.

Freely licensed reproductions of relevant primary sources are definitely welcome on Wikimedia Commons.

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We wish to have the contents as wikis, and, pictures and video snippets that might be involved - as properly licensed free materials. Now, the concern is if there is some Wikimedia Project that would host contents that are based on such an enormous amount of original research.

The original research part *might* be allowed on some Wikibooks subdomains, you have to ask the community in the relevant language. For your own wiki, it's probably best to enter an open farm. There are several. https://wikiapiary.com/wiki/Farm:Farms Nemo

Ting Chen

3:07 p.m.

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Castelo Branco

6 Jan 6 Jan

7:02 p.m.

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A few of my friends and I have been planning to document the history of counterculture in Bengali art and literature. These friends are also working in that domain professionally, and have access to a huge repository of texts, images, and other relevant details that they are willing to make available digitally in the form of free contents. We wish to have the contents as wikis, and, pictures and video snippets that might be involved - as properly licensed free materials. Now, the concern is if there is some Wikimedia Project that would host contents that are based on such an enormous amount of original research. Wikipedia is certainly not the appropriate place. And, as there exist no earlier works on this particular domain on the internet, references would be negligible. I was thinking about Wikibooks, instead. I am not entirely sure if that fits either, but I assume it fits better than Wikipedia, at least. The last option is to host it ourselves with the MediaWiki setup, and I am considering it very much. But, the idea essentially is to make people edit and enrich it with as much inputs as possible. It would be really helpful, in that case, if it could be placed in one of the Wikimedia projects. Suggestions, of every kind, would be deeply appreciated. Best, Sucheta _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

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JP Béland

8 Jan 8 Jan

10:54 p.m.

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Wikibooks. 2015-01-06 11:02 GMT-07:00 Castelo Branco <michelcastelobranco(a)gmail.com>om>:

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Hello Sucheta, for me this looks like a good restart for Wikiversity. For me beside of providing university courses one of the target of Wikiversity is also always to be actually do crowd sourced research works. Best regards Ting Am 01/05/2015 um 02:30 PM schrieb Sucheta Ghoshal: Hi all, > > A few of my friends and I have been planning to document the history of > counterculture in Bengali art and literature. These friends are also > working in that domain professionally, and have access to a huge > repository > of texts, images, and other relevant details that they are willing to

make

> available digitally in the form of free contents. We wish to have the > contents as wikis, and, pictures and video snippets that might be

involved

> - as properly licensed free materials. Now, the concern is if there is > some > Wikimedia Project that would host contents that are based on such an > enormous amount of original research. Wikipedia is certainly not the > appropriate place. And, as there exist no earlier works on this

particular

> domain on the internet, references would be negligible. I was thinking > about Wikibooks, instead. I am not entirely sure if that fits either,

but

> I > assume it fits better than Wikipedia, at least. The last option is to

host

> it ourselves with the MediaWiki setup, and I am considering it very

much.

> But, the idea essentially is to make people edit and enrich it with as > much > inputs as possible. It would be really helpful, in that case, if it

could

be placed in one of the Wikimedia projects. Suggestions, of every kind, would be deeply appreciated. Best, Sucheta _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

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Castelo Branco

9 Jan 9 Jan

2:17 p.m.

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"Wikibooks is for textbooks, annotated texts, instructional guides, and manuals. (...) Wikibooks is not a place to publish primary research." https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:What_is_Wikibooks Michel Castelo Branco 2015-01-08 19:54 GMT-02:00 JP Béland <lebo.beland(a)gmail.com>om>:

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Wikibooks. 2015-01-06 11:02 GMT-07:00 Castelo Branco <michelcastelobranco(a)gmail.com>om>:

+1 Ting Chen Original research in a wiki way = Wikiversity Original report (for recent events) and interviews = Wikinews Regards, Michel Castelo Branco 2015-01-05 12:07 GMT-02:00 Ting Chen <wing.philopp(a)gmx.de>de>: > Hello Sucheta, > > for me this looks like a good restart for Wikiversity. For me beside of > providing university courses one of the target of Wikiversity is also > always to be actually do crowd sourced research works. > > Best regards > Ting > > > Am 01/05/2015 um 02:30 PM schrieb Sucheta Ghoshal: > > Hi all, >> >> A few of my friends and I have been planning to document the history

> counterculture in Bengali art and literature. These friends are also > working in that domain professionally, and have access to a huge > repository > of texts, images, and other relevant details that they are willing to

make

> available digitally in the form of free contents. We wish to have the > contents as wikis, and, pictures and video snippets that might be

involved

particular

> domain on the internet, references would be negligible. I was thinking > about Wikibooks, instead. I am not entirely sure if that fits either,

but

> I > assume it fits better than Wikipedia, at least. The last option is to

host

> it ourselves with the MediaWiki setup, and I am considering it very

much.

> But, the idea essentially is to make people edit and enrich it with as > much > inputs as possible. It would be really helpful, in that case, if it

could >> be placed in one of the Wikimedia projects. Suggestions, of every

kind,

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JP Béland

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Depends how you write the original research, it can easily be considered a textbook. 2015-01-09 6:17 GMT-07:00 Castelo Branco <michelcastelobranco(a)gmail.com>om>:

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Wikibooks. 2015-01-06 11:02 GMT-07:00 Castelo Branco <michelcastelobranco(a)gmail.com : > +1 Ting Chen > > Original research in a wiki way = Wikiversity > Original report (for recent events) and interviews = Wikinews > > Regards, > > Michel Castelo Branco > > 2015-01-05 12:07 GMT-02:00 Ting Chen <wing.philopp(a)gmx.de>de>: > > > Hello Sucheta, > > > > for me this looks like a good restart for Wikiversity. For me beside

> providing university courses one of the target of Wikiversity is also > always to be actually do crowd sourced research works. > > Best regards > Ting > > > Am 01/05/2015 um 02:30 PM schrieb Sucheta Ghoshal: > > Hi all, >> >> A few of my friends and I have been planning to document the history

of > >> counterculture in Bengali art and literature. These friends are also > >> working in that domain professionally, and have access to a huge > >> repository > >> of texts, images, and other relevant details that they are willing

> make > >> available digitally in the form of free contents. We wish to have

the

> >> contents as wikis, and, pictures and video snippets that might be > involved > >> - as properly licensed free materials. Now, the concern is if there

> >> some > >> Wikimedia Project that would host contents that are based on such an > >> enormous amount of original research. Wikipedia is certainly not the > >> appropriate place. And, as there exist no earlier works on this > particular > >> domain on the internet, references would be negligible. I was

thinking

> >> about Wikibooks, instead. I am not entirely sure if that fits

either,

> but > >> I > >> assume it fits better than Wikipedia, at least. The last option is

> host > >> it ourselves with the MediaWiki setup, and I am considering it very > much. > >> But, the idea essentially is to make people edit and enrich it with

> much > inputs as possible. It would be really helpful, in that case, if it

could >> be placed in one of the Wikimedia projects. Suggestions, of every

kind, > >> would be deeply appreciated. > >> > >> Best, > >> Sucheta > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at:

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Federico Leva (Nemo)

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Castelo Branco, 09/01/2015 14:17:

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"Wikibooks is for textbooks, annotated texts, instructional guides, and manuals. (...) Wikibooks is not a place to publish primary research." https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:What_is_Wikibooks

That's only one language. Nemo

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Andrea Zanni
Castelo Branco
Craig Franklin
Federico Leva (Nemo)
JP Béland
Richard Symonds
Sucheta Ghoshal
Ting Chen
Yaroslav M. Blanter