Steve Smith writes:
My strong belief is that the Foundation can make *suggestions* to the
community about what content policy should be, but that *it must remain up to the community whether to adopt such policies and how to enforce them*.
How is this reconcilable with Foundation issue #1: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Foundation_issues ?
I'm unclear as to how it seems inconsistent to you. Can you explain what you think is unreconciled? I assume you recognize that NPOV has been adopted by the Wikipedia community and is enforced by it (and not by the Foundation).
--Mike
2009/3/2 Mike Godwin mnemonic@gmail.com:
Steve Smith writes:
My strong belief is that the Foundation can make *suggestions* to the
community about what content policy should be, but that *it must remain up to the community whether to adopt such policies and how to enforce them*.
How is this reconcilable with Foundation issue #1: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Foundation_issues ?
I'm unclear as to how it seems inconsistent to you. Can you explain what you think is unreconciled? I assume you recognize that NPOV has been adopted by the Wikipedia community and is enforced by it (and not by the Foundation).
But it is on a page described as "Foundation issues", which makes it sounds like a WMF thing. Apparently it actually means "foundation" in the sense of the bottom of a building, rather than the WMF, if so that should probably be changed. It is rather confusing.
2009/3/2 Mike Godwin mnemonic@gmail.com:
I'm unclear as to how it seems inconsistent to you. Can you explain what you think is unreconciled? I assume you recognize that NPOV has been adopted by the Wikipedia community and is enforced by it (and not by the Foundation).
That statement is actually false - Wikipedias have been shut down by the Foundation for being grossly negligent of NPOV (Siberian, Moldovan).
- d.
I probably should have used the word "implement" rather than "enforce."
I agree that in some sense "the death penalty" qualifies as enforcement, but it doesn't actually make any particular article adhere to NPOV. It's the community, not the Foundation, that is trusted with ensuring that individual articles adhere to the NPOV standard.
--Mike
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:36 AM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
2009/3/2 Mike Godwin mnemonic@gmail.com:
I'm unclear as to how it seems inconsistent to you. Can you explain what
you
think is unreconciled? I assume you recognize that NPOV has been adopted
by
the Wikipedia community and is enforced by it (and not by the
Foundation).
That statement is actually false - Wikipedias have been shut down by the Foundation for being grossly negligent of NPOV (Siberian, Moldovan).
- d.
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