we're not good friends, we saw each other in real life very few times, in
Berlin and in Hong Kong,
but I always remember our work for the Wikisource IEG¹ one of the coolest
projects I've ever done in my life as a wikimedian.
We did well, I think, even if our results were small and there was a need
of some follow up work that didn't actually happen, even if I recall it as
I'm writing here in the spirit of our movement: we like common things, and
I think yours is a common struggle.
I hope this little advice is at least bit helpful, and hopefully not for
I think that you're misinterpreting the role of the Wikimedia movement in
Wikimedia can be an amazing place where you can find friends, a community
of peers, like-minded altruistic people, maybe even love,
but never, never, never *purpose*.
You can find purpose in other, more concrete and especially more close
things: family, friends, relationships, love, good careers, children, you
Wikimedia can be a great, awesome *accessory*, but it will never replace
those black holes that everyone of us stares in our lives.
Everytime I've seen this happen, everytime I've seen people trying to put
everything they had in Wikimedia, I've worried.
I know quite well this feeling: it took me quite a few years to understand
my own relationship with wikimedia was not ideal, and it was sucking life
out of me. As a chairman of a chapter I was quite stressed, and above all I
saw that wiki things constantly conflicted with other things in my life.
Eventually, I gave up, because I saw that this path as not going to end
I've even seen few members of our community took their own life: some of
them were heavily invested in our wiki movement. Although I don't think
Wikimedia was the reason, I think it had became part of the problem: often,
people try to find something in Wikimedia that Wikimedia cannot actually
provide. Sometimes it's even the contrary: the more you give to wiki the
more it will ask you: we strive for "world domination", we want an
impossible thing, enormous thing all together. We want to give free access
to the all human knowledge to everyone, and we do this as a hobby.
It's a dream, and you work towards it: it's not something that you will
ever achieve. We've done incredible things in the last 18 years: but we
always get this feeling that we haven't even started yet... This leaves a
lot of room for stress, for anxiety, for not working properly and break
You don't want to do that.
So, I'd encourage you (I'm encouraging everyone of us, myself included) to
pick your battles, check your priorities, start from the fundamentals:
health first, work first, daily important relationships first.
You need money to live, eat, pay your bills: don't put yourself in a worse
position than your current one.
You come first than Wikimedia. You can't do good if there's no "you" in
I mean it.
I hope this helps,
² To be fair, I think we did a good job, and I think that WMF bears
responsability in the "failure" of the project. But it's not important now.
On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 4:23 AM, Pine W <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
It sounds to me like there are a few different topics that are on your
mind. I'm wondering if it might help to clarify the situation if we could
meet on Hangouts for some near-real-time communication. I'd be glad to try
to find a time to meet with you. I'll be coming and going from the Internet
for the next few hours, and if you happen to be online then I'd be glad to
talk with you on Hangouts for a voice conversation when we're both
available. Please feel free to send me a text message on Hangouts if you're
available and would be interested in having a conversation there. I may not
respond immediately, but I should respond within half an hour of receiving
Personally, I am looking forward to seeing the new WMF website, and I
generally have a positive view of Ed Erhart. The topic of where certain
publications should be posted is a complicated one, and I would like to
hear your perspective.
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