In a message dated 7/2/2010 3:20:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, wiki-list@phizz.demon.co.uk writes:
Nothing competes with free, why would you pay for an album when your mates just download it for nothing? >>
Gee I don't know. Why are people still renting videos from Netflix when you can watch 500 free movies on YouTube? I think you're being specious.
There are already companies making money with this model. Just because don't *want* to use it, doesn't mean that they aren't going to be *forced* to use it, by the market.
Now I can rent a DVD for one dollar a day at 7 eleven. So what is Blockbuster going to do with that? Go down to one dollar also? Or go out of business? Or do the online thing for say... fifty cents? And which is smarter? Fighting or changing?
If you can't adapt, then you're doomed. Just ask the giant tree sloth, and the woolley mammoth.
WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 7/2/2010 3:20:37 PM Pacific Daylight Time, wiki-list@phizz.demon.co.uk writes:
Nothing competes with free, why would you pay for an album when your mates just download it for nothing? >>
Gee I don't know. Why are people still renting videos from Netflix when you can watch 500 free movies on YouTube? I think you're being specious.
Why did you snip the context?
Perhaps they haven't quite got the idea of BitTorrents, eDonkey or whatever. Perhaps they are slightly scared that they might get caught, perhaps they are fundamentally honest, perhaps they like to pretend they are Cosimo de' Medici dispensing their largess on the arts?
Back in the late 80s a computer club I used to go to turned from a hackers showcase sort of place, to a pirate club. By the time I stopped going there there were 50 computers every month spending 2 hours copying games discs. I don't recall ever seeing an original disc. Someone somewhere must have bought one but it wasn't anyone at that particular club and those that I kept some form of contact with never paid for games. They don't pay for music or films either. Except as presents for xmas and birthdays cos it looks a bit cheap giving someone a DVD you've got off eMule.
As Andrew pointed out, this discussion has spiraled entirely outside the scope of this list. Discussions on the effects of copyright law with regard to Wikimedia and its projects are welcome. General discussions on copyright law and piracy that have little to do with Wikimedia should be taken elsewhere.
On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 08:17, Ryan Lomonaco wiki.ral315@gmail.com wrote:
As Andrew pointed out, this discussion has spiraled entirely outside the scope of this list. Discussions on the effects of copyright law with regard to Wikimedia and its projects are welcome. General discussions on copyright law and piracy that have little to do with Wikimedia should be taken elsewhere.
Yes please! Guys! Self-restraint.
Thanks, g
Here's Lessig's response to the ASCAP smear campaign:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lawrence-lessig/ascaps-attack-on-creative_b_64...
Ryan Kaldari
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