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Russavia

31 Jul 2014 31 Jul '14

6:06 p.m.

On 23 July John Resig tweeted a challenge,[1] "I will donate $20 to a charity if someone can land an edit to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptilians or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory) … in @congressedits" Sure enough, someone took up Resig's challenge with this edit.[2] Keeping with his challenge, Resig announced that $20 had been donated to the WMF for the edit.[3] The IP used for the edit, sure enough, resolves to the US House of Representative.[4] To make matters a little worse, the US House of Representatives IP has taken to vandalising the Russian Wikipedia article for the Russian national anthem,[5] replacing sheet music for the anthem with the sheet music for Putin -- khuilo (Putin is a dickhead).[6] Question to the masses, should the WMF refund the $20 donation made to it? Russavia [1] http://www.webcitation.org/6RTt5jM9U [2] https://twitter.com/congressedits/status/492027099499462657 [3] http://www.webcitation.org/6RTtO0JMP [4] http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/143.231.249.138 [5] https://ru.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%93%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BD_%D0%A0%… [6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putin_khuilo!

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Newyorkbrad

31 Jul 31 Jul

6:23 p.m.

New subject: $20 donation to WMF for vandalism edit from US House of Representatives

The activity you describe is obviously unacceptable. However, the amount of time and effort that out associated with tracking down and returning a particular $20 contribution would not be worth it. Newyorkbrad On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Russavia <russavia.wikipedia(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Russavia

1 Aug 1 Aug

2:52 p.m.

New subject: $20 donation to WMF for vandalism edit from US House of Representatives

On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Newyorkbrad <newyorkbrad(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Newyorkbrad, it wouldn't be all that difficult, given that the person's name is known, it was clearly done with Paypal, we have the date the donation was made, etc, etc. Furthermore, as the WMF have publicly spoken on these edits,[1] it would be amiss to condemn the edits but not disavow donations made as part of those edits. The WMF should be refunding the donation.

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Even more worse, the Kremlin is using the English Wikipedia to support a misinformation campaign around the shoot down of MH17 by Russian separatists in Ukraine.[1] Thankfully we have these new watchdog Twitter bots to spot interference by unsophisticated government actors, of both the playfully harmless and the dangerously harmful varieties.

Lisa Gruwell

4:40 p.m.

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We do not see any donations from anyone by that name. Best, Lisa Gruwell On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Russavia <russavia.wikipedia(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Newyorkbrad <newyorkbrad(a)gmail.com> wrote:

the

playfully harmless and the dangerously harmful varieties.

Nathan, it is fantastic that Jen Psaki wishes to engage with the Wikimedia community, but could you please in future ask her to send her brainfarts from her own account. :) Cheers Scotty [1] http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/07/24/wikipedia-bloc… _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

Dennis Pierri

6:41 p.m.

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;O we get vandalized and he doesn't stick to his word of donating? Some people are just mean. On 01/08/2014, at 10:10, Lisa Gruwell <lgruwell(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

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We do not see any donations from anyone by that name. Best, Lisa Gruwell On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Russavia <russavia.wikipedia(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Newyorkbrad <newyorkbrad(a)gmail.com> wrote:

the

playfully harmless and the dangerously harmful varieties.

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Richard Symonds

8:49 p.m.

New subject: $20 donation to WMF for vandalism edit from US House of Representatives

He may have donated under a pseudonym, or by cheque, or to a chapter, or through a friend. Very tricky to track down. On 1 Aug 2014 17:42, "Dennis Pierri" <dennis6492(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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;O we get vandalized and he doesn't stick to his word of donating? Some people are just mean. On 01/08/2014, at 10:10, Lisa Gruwell <lgruwell(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:

We do not see any donations from anyone by that name. Best, Lisa Gruwell On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 5:52 AM, Russavia <russavia.wikipedia(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 12:23 AM, Newyorkbrad <newyorkbrad(a)gmail.com> > wrote: >> The activity you describe is obviously unacceptable. However, the

amount

>> of time and effort that out associated with tracking down and

returning a

>> particular $20 contribution would not be worth it. >> >> Newyorkbrad > > Newyorkbrad, it wouldn't be all that difficult, given that the > person's name is known, it was clearly done with Paypal, we have the > date the donation was made, etc, etc. > > Furthermore, as the WMF have publicly spoken on these edits,[1] it > would be amiss to condemn the edits but not disavow donations made as > part of those edits. > > The WMF should be refunding the donation. > >> Even more worse, the Kremlin is using the English Wikipedia to support

>> misinformation campaign around the shoot down of MH17 by Russian >> separatists in Ukraine.[1] Thankfully we have these new watchdog

Twitter

>> bots to spot interference by unsophisticated government actors, of both > the >> playfully harmless and the dangerously harmful varieties. > > Nathan, it is fantastic that Jen Psaki wishes to engage with the > Wikimedia community, but could you please in future ask her to send > her brainfarts from her own account. :) > > Cheers > > Scotty > > > [1] >

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Rjd0060

9:10 p.m.

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On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Richard Symonds < richard.symonds(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

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He may have donated under a pseudonym, or by cheque, or to a chapter, or through a friend. Very tricky to track down.

Everton Zanella Alvarenga

9:14 p.m.

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The time a staff or contractor will need to discover his donation or if he has donated is more expensive than 20 USD. Ask him better donations, revert the vandalism and don't give the money back, using it for some useful thing, like improving anti-vandalism tools. 2014-08-01 16:10 GMT-03:00 Rjd0060 <rjd0060.wiki(a)gmail.com>om>:

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On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Richard Symonds < richard.symonds(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

He may have donated under a pseudonym, or by cheque, or to a chapter, or through a friend. Very tricky to track down.

Richard Symonds

9:19 p.m.

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+1, sorry, that was my point :-) On 1 Aug 2014 20:10, "Rjd0060" <rjd0060.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Richard Symonds < richard.symonds(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

He may have donated under a pseudonym, or by cheque, or to a chapter, or through a friend. Very tricky to track down.

Or...the US NSA hacked into the Foundation's donor database and removed it to contribute to the conspiracy. Jeez guys - stop beating the horse. It's never was alive to begin with. -- Ryan User:Rjd0060 _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

Russavia

9:30 p.m.

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Hi Richard, et al On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 2:49 AM, Richard Symonds <richard.symonds(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

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He may have donated under a pseudonym, or by cheque, or to a chapter, or through a friend. Very tricky to track down.

True, people can and do donate via such methods. I did so myself when I donated the half proceeds from the sale of Pricasso's painting of Jimmy Wales to the WMF.[1] I had a friend in the US donate by way of cheque sent to the WMF offices so that it wouldn't be eaten up in credit card and Paypal fees.

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Jeez guys - stop beating the horse. It's never was alive to begin with.

Everton Zanella Alvarenga

9:38 p.m.

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2014-08-01 16:30 GMT-03:00 Russavia <russavia.wikipedia(a)gmail.com>om>:

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No. Richard said it was NSA fault, "the US NSA hacked into the Foundation's donor database and removed it". I tend to believe on this as well. Instead of improve anti-vandalism tools as suggested, we also could use the money for improve WMF servers security. -- Everton Zanella Alvarenga (also Tom) Open Knowledge Brasil - Rede pelo Conhecimento Livre http://br.okfn.org

David Gerard

9:38 p.m.

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Alternately, we could stop feeding an obvious troll. On 1 August 2014 20:30, Russavia <russavia.wikipedia(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Hi Richard, et al On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 2:49 AM, Richard Symonds <richard.symonds(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

He may have donated under a pseudonym, or by cheque, or to a chapter, or through a friend. Very tricky to track down.

Jeez guys - stop beating the horse. It's never was alive to begin with.

Rjd0060, I'm not sure here, but are you saying that the guy didn't actually donate the $20? If so, he publicly said he did, so it's best not to say such things which could be misconstrued as you saying the guy lied. Perhaps contact with him via Twitter might get an answer as to how he actually donated. Cheers Russavia [1] http://archive.today/L6OVn _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

Rjd0060

9:42 p.m.

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On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:30 PM, Russavia <russavia.wikipedia(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Jeez guys - stop beating the horse. It's never was alive to begin with.

No, I'm saying this doesn't matter and people should get back to doing whatever they feel is actually important. Let it go. It really does not matter. AT ALL. -- Ryan User:Rjd0060

Nathan

9:59 p.m.

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On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Rjd0060 <rjd0060.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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No, I'm saying this doesn't matter and people should get back to doing whatever they feel is actually important. Let it go. It really does not matter. AT ALL.

Thyge

10:08 p.m.

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To me, the only thing at stake is the seriousness of this list - and that is not a new issue, unfortunately. Regards, Thyge /Sir48 2014-08-01 21:59 GMT+02:00 Nathan <nawrich(a)gmail.com>om>:

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On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Rjd0060 <rjd0060.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:

No, I'm saying this doesn't matter and people should get back to doing whatever they feel is actually important. Let it go. It really does not matter. AT ALL.

I can't agree. It's clear that lives are at stake, not to mention our international reputation and the livelihood of all employees as well as the self-esteem of many thousands of contributors. This couldn't possibly be more serious. _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

Rjd0060

11:23 p.m.

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On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Nathan <nawrich(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Rjd0060 <rjd0060.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:

No, I'm saying this doesn't matter and people should get back to doing whatever they feel is actually important. Let it go. It really does not matter. AT ALL.

When you find yourself saying things like this, or you find yourself agreeing to this kind of reasoning, perhaps it's time to take a step back and look at the big picture. We're editing a *website*. Go outside and play. -- Ryan User:Rjd0060

Nathan

11:26 p.m.

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On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 5:23 PM, Rjd0060 <rjd0060.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Nathan <nawrich(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Rjd0060 <rjd0060.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:

No, I'm saying this doesn't matter and people should get back to doing whatever they feel is actually important. Let it go. It really does not matter. AT ALL.

I can't agree. It's clear that lives are at stake, not to mention our international reputation and the livelihood of all employees as well as

the

self-esteem of many thousands of contributors. This couldn't possibly be more serious.

I guess you can see now how its possible Russavia didn't get your joke :-P

Federico Leva (Nemo)

31 Jul 31 Jul

7:21 p.m.

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Was this paid-by-proxy contribution accompanied by disclosure? Nemo

Nathan

7:26 p.m.

New subject: $20 donation to WMF for vandalism edit from US House of Representatives

On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Russavia <russavia.wikipedia(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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To make matters a little worse, the US House of Representatives IP has taken to vandalising the Russian Wikipedia article for the Russian national anthem,[5] replacing sheet music for the anthem with the sheet music for Putin -- khuilo (Putin is a dickhead).[6] Question to the masses, should the WMF refund the $20 donation made to it? Russavia [1] http://www.webcitation.org/6RTt5jM9U [2] https://twitter.com/congressedits/status/492027099499462657 [3] http://www.webcitation.org/6RTtO0JMP [4] http://whatismyipaddress.com/ip/143.231.249.138 [5] https://ru.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%D0%93%D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%BD_%D0%A0%… [6] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Putin_khuilo!

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David Gerard
Dennis Pierri
Everton Zanella Alvarenga
Federico Leva (Nemo)
Lisa Gruwell
Nathan
Newyorkbrad
Richard Symonds
Rjd0060
Russavia
Thyge