Have you filed these grave bugs with broken MySQL, Java and PHP packages with the Fedora bugtracking facilities? The instructions I provided are OS independent. I've only verified them on 5 separate boxes and 3 OS'. If you wish, I can install FC5 and FC6 independently on separate boxes to validate your assertions here, but I seriously expect you're going to be wrong. In either case, I see two possible outcomes: 1. You're doing something wrong, and blaming the distribution for it 2. There are critical bugs in core packages shipped with Fedora that need to be reported and fixed, ASAP. So let's identify which one it is, and address it. -- David A. Desrosiers desrod(a)gnu-designs.com Skype username: setuid http://gnu-designs.com ”Always strive to silence the voices that oppose you."