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Charles Andres

15 Oct 2013 15 Oct '13

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Jon Davies

15 Oct 15 Oct

8:30 a.m.

Yes a problem I have encountered too and very annoying. Newbies really appreciate it. Jon On 15 October 2013 08:58, Charles Andres <charles.andres.wmch(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

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Dear all, In our new education program with youngs in scholar difficulties, we have the problem that only half of the new accounts have the visual editor activated, it's quite annoying to have two teach two way of editing. Is there a trick to force the activation of Visual Editor for a specific user? Thanks Charles ___________________________________________________________ Charles ANDRES, Chief Science Officer "Wikimedia CH" – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

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K. Peachey

8:34 a.m.

Under Preferences > Editing > "Enable VisualEditor (only in the main<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Main_namespace> and user <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:User_namespace> namespaces)" will do it iirc. On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 6:30 PM, Jon Davies <jon.davies(a)wikimedia.org.uk>wrote;wrote:

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Yes a problem I have encountered too and very annoying. Newbies really appreciate it. Jon On 15 October 2013 08:58, Charles Andres <charles.andres.wmch(a)gmail.com

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Jon Davies

9:22 a.m.

Thanks, but newbies shouldn't have to do all that - it should sit there as an option. On 15 October 2013 09:34, K. Peachey <p858snake(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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> Yes a problem I have encountered too and very annoying. Newbies really > appreciate it. > Jon > > > On 15 October 2013 08:58, Charles Andres <charles.andres.wmch(a)gmail.com >

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> > > Dear all, > > > > In our new education program with youngs in scholar difficulties, we have

> the problem that only half of the new accounts have the visual editor > activated, it's quite annoying to have two teach two way of editing. > > Is there a trick to force the activation of Visual Editor for a

specific

user? Thanks Charles ___________________________________________________________ Charles ANDRES, Chief Science Officer "Wikimedia CH" – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>

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K. Peachey

9:52 a.m.

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Jon Davies <jon.davies(a)wikimedia.org.uk>wrote;wrote:

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Thanks, but newbies shouldn't have to do all that - it should sit there as an option.

The same can be argued for the many other features that can be found in your preferences. No reason to see that as a downside, but a chance to cover that in the intro training explaining that many features and additional options can be found under your preferences and for example we will enable Visual Editor.

James Forrester

6:32 p.m.

On 15 October 2013 00:58, Charles Andres <charles.andres.wmch(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

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Charles, Is this because of the browser they are using, the wiki they are trying to edit on, or specific to their account? Which wiki are you talking about this happening on? There was a configuration that we used in June for just over a week to A/B test VisualEditor, but that code is no longer around, so this should not be happening. However, users of Internet Explorer and some marginal or old browsers cannot use VisualEditor yet as we have not been able to get it to work there, which may explain the issue? Yours, -- James D. Forrester Product Manager, VisualEditor Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. jforrester(a)wikimedia.org | @jdforrester

Charles Andrès

16 Oct 16 Oct

9:17 a.m.

Hello James, The lesson was on the french wikipedia. I was thinking that it was account specific because the first time half of the new accounts had no VE, it looks like a random issue, but yesterday it was only one for 9 account created. Actually I haven't check the browser used, as they all use the same type of computer, I've done the assumption that it wasn't hardware or software dependent. Bbut now that you mention that, I remember that the students were using chrome, firefox and explorer, next tuesday I will take care that they all use chrome or firefox. Thanks Charles ___________________________________________________________ I use this email for mailing list only. Charles ANDRES, Chief Science Officer "Wikimedia CH" – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch Le 15 oct. 2013 à 20:32, James Forrester <jforrester(a)wikimedia.org> a écrit :

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On 15 October 2013 00:58, Charles Andres <charles.andres.wmch(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

Charles Andrès

16 Nov 16 Nov

7:09 a.m.

I don’t remember if I answered you James, but you’re totally right the problem was the browser, now we invite people to use only chrome or Firefix and we had no problem. cheers Charles ___________________________________________________________ I use this email for mailing list only. Charles ANDRES, Chief Science Officer "Wikimedia CH" – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch Le 15 oct. 2013 à 20:32, James Forrester <jforrester(a)wikimedia.org> a écrit :

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On 15 October 2013 00:58, Charles Andres <charles.andres.wmch(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:

James Forrester

4:24 p.m.

On Saturday, November 16, 2013, Charles Andrès wrote:

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I don’t remember if I answered you James, but you’re totally right the problem was the browser, now we invite people to use only chrome or Firefix and we had no problem.

Thanks, Charles. Obviously it's a priority to support other browsers too to avoid this in future. J.

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cheers Charles ___________________________________________________________ I use this email for mailing list only. Charles ANDRES, Chief Science Officer "Wikimedia CH" – Association for the advancement of free knowledge – www.wikimedia.ch Skype: charles.andres.wmch IRC://irc.freenode.net/wikimedia-ch Le 15 oct. 2013 à 20:32, James Forrester <jforrester@wikimedia.org<javascript:;>> a écrit :

On 15 October 2013 00:58, Charles Andres <charles.andres.wmch@gmail.com<javascript:;> wrote: > Dear all, > > In our new education program with youngs in scholar difficulties, we

have

the problem that only half of the new accounts have the visual editor activated, it's quite annoying to have two teach two way of editing.

Charles, Is this because of the browser they are using, the wiki they are trying

edit on, or specific to their account? Which wiki are you talking about this happening on? There was a configuration that we used in June for just over a week to

A/B

test VisualEditor, but that code is no longer around, so this should not

happening. However, users of Internet Explorer and some marginal or old browsers cannot use VisualEditor yet as we have not been able to get it to work there, which may explain the issue? Yours, -- James D. Forrester Product Manager, VisualEditor Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. jforrester(a)wikimedia.org <javascript:;> | @jdforrester _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l,

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