Hi all
I just came across this[1] policy on Commons, which states that from today, non-free content is going to be allowed to be uploaded on Commons. I'm rather shocked that this was pushed through without any notice here, or anywhere, and it has become policy, going against Wikimedia's "free content" philosophy. Can people please input on the talk page as soon as possible please, so we can get this reversed.
Thanks,
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Al Tally majorly.wiki@googlemail.comwrote:
Hi all
I just came across this[1] policy on Commons, which states that from today, non-free content is going to be allowed to be uploaded on Commons. I'm rather shocked that this was pushed through without any notice here, or anywhere, and it has become policy, going against Wikimedia's "free content" philosophy. Can people please input on the talk page as soon as possible please, so we can get this reversed.
Thanks,
-- Alex (User:Majorly)
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April's fools alredy? *sigh*
April's fools alredy? *sigh*
Apparently. As I have no desire to have my time wasted by such abuse of the mailing list, I've created a filter to delete any future e-mails from Al Tally (with whom my interactions have been uniformly negative).
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 2:59 AM, David Levy lifeisunfair@gmail.com wrote:
April's fools alredy? *sigh*
Apparently. As I have no desire to have my time wasted by such abuse of the mailing list, I've created a filter to delete any future e-mails from Al Tally (with whom my interactions have been uniformly negative).
Hey, some people just lack a sense of humour. David Levy is one of them. Happy April 1 everyone else :)
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Al Tally majorly.wiki@googlemail.comwrote:
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 2:59 AM, David Levy lifeisunfair@gmail.com wrote:
April's fools alredy? *sigh*
Apparently. As I have no desire to have my time wasted by such abuse of the mailing list, I've created a filter to delete any future e-mails from Al Tally (with whom my interactions have been uniformly negative).
Hey, some people just lack a sense of humour. David Levy is one of them. Happy April 1 everyone else :)
-- Alex (User:Majorly) _
you'd be annoyed if you started getting lots of bogus messages and silly jokes on december 28
2009/4/1 Pedro Sanchez pdsanchez@gmail.com:
you'd be annoyed if you started getting lots of bogus messages and silly jokes on december 28
Yes, because December 28 isn't the traditional day for such things. As long as it is just one day a year, it's a bit of fun. If people started doing it on random days, obviously it would be annoying.
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.comwrote:
2009/4/1 Pedro Sanchez pdsanchez@gmail.com:
you'd be annoyed if you started getting lots of bogus messages and silly jokes on december 28
Yes, because December 28 isn't the traditional day for such things. As long as it is just one day a year, it's a bit of fun. If people started doing it on random days, obviously it would be annoying.
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Well it CERTAINLY is in all latin america, spain and other latin countries
But we refrain from imposing our sillyness to the rerst of the world
2009/4/1 Pedro Sanchez pdsanchez@gmail.com:
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:40 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.comwrote:
2009/4/1 Pedro Sanchez pdsanchez@gmail.com:
you'd be annoyed if you started getting lots of bogus messages and silly jokes on december 28
Yes, because December 28 isn't the traditional day for such things. As long as it is just one day a year, it's a bit of fun. If people started doing it on random days, obviously it would be annoying.
Well it CERTAINLY is in all latin america, spain and other latin countries
But we refrain from imposing our sillyness to the rerst of the world
This is a (predominantly) English-language mailing list, so using those traditions used in the English-speaking world seems to make sense to me.
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.comwrote:
This is a (predominantly) English-language mailing list, so using those traditions used in the English-speaking world seems to make sense to me.
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Of course, wasting resources on april 1st is very sensical.
And who cares about purported reach to the whole world and all that fancy words let's bother them with our idiotic pranks becuase we are majority and thereforewe have the right to do so
Very good attitude on the wikimedia foundation list (I don't care if you do so on english wikipedia list)
Pedro Sanchez wrote:
Of course, wasting resources on april 1st is very sensical.
And who cares about purported reach to the whole world and all that fancy words let's bother them with our idiotic pranks becuase we are majority and thereforewe have the right to do so
Very good attitude on the wikimedia foundation list (I don't care if you do so on english wikipedia list)
Needless to say, I wholeheartedly agree with you, Pedro. Every year, I find myself disheartened by this Anglocentric rationale for deliberate disruption.
I've even mentioned 28 December when trying to explain to people that April Fools' Day isn't a worldwide custom.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_the_Innocents#Feast_days
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David Levy wrote:
Pedro Sanchez wrote:
Of course, wasting resources on april 1st is very sensical.
And who cares about purported reach to the whole world and all that fancy words let's bother them with our idiotic pranks becuase we are majority and thereforewe have the right to do so
Very good attitude on the wikimedia foundation list (I don't care if you do so on english wikipedia list)
Needless to say, I wholeheartedly agree with you, Pedro. Every year, I find myself disheartened by this Anglocentric rationale for deliberate disruption.
I've even mentioned 28 December when trying to explain to people that April Fools' Day isn't a worldwide custom.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_the_Innocents#Feast_days
Here here! I'm also a fan of doing this on December 28 (and ignoring the fact that it's my birthday that day).
Cary
Cary Bass wrote:
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David Levy wrote:
Pedro Sanchez wrote:
Of course, wasting resources on april 1st is very sensical.
And who cares about purported reach to the whole world and all that fancy words let's bother them with our idiotic pranks becuase we are majority and thereforewe have the right to do so
Very good attitude on the wikimedia foundation list (I don't care if you do so on english wikipedia list)
Needless to say, I wholeheartedly agree with you, Pedro. Every year, I find myself disheartened by this Anglocentric rationale for deliberate disruption.
I've even mentioned 28 December when trying to explain to people that April Fools' Day isn't a worldwide custom.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_the_Innocents#Feast_days
Here here! I'm also a fan of doing this on December 28 (and ignoring the fact that it's my birthday that day).
Cary
Me too; adding that I would be all for the jewish contributors of our site to create a [[Wikipedia:Purim policy page]] next year 27th to 28th of March. (See [[Purim torah]])
Yours,
Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
Pedro Sanchez wrote:
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:45 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.comwrote:
This is a (predominantly) English-language mailing list, so using those traditions used in the English-speaking world seems to make sense to me.
Of course, wasting resources on april 1st is very sensical.
And who cares about purported reach to the whole world and all that fancy words let's bother them with our idiotic pranks becuase we are majority and thereforewe have the right to do so
Very good attitude on the wikimedia foundation list (I don't care if you do so on english wikipedia list)
Some people just need to lighten up. Over the years I've seen many issues that "waste" a lot more resources than this. If you see shit in the toilet a person who flushes uses resources far more efficiently than some jealously constipated individual who opens up an investigation to punish the person who left it there. People who complain about a little innocent fun are akin to those in an office who measure the length of pencils every day to make sure they aren't excessively wasted.
Ec
I've just finished coding up Non-Free Content Bot which spiders Google Images and uploads 10 per second to commons with no license information. I wrote the bot using MediaWiki's turing complete template language. Given that Google Images has 916,000,000 images I anticipate it will take 2.90269084 years to finish.
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Al Tally majorly.wiki@googlemail.comwrote:
Hi all
I just came across this[1] policy on Commons, which states that from today, non-free content is going to be allowed to be uploaded on Commons. I'm rather shocked that this was pushed through without any notice here, or anywhere, and it has become policy, going against Wikimedia's "free content" philosophy. Can people please input on the talk page as soon as possible please, so we can get this reversed.
Thanks,
-- Alex (User:Majorly)
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May I point out that Alex, also known as majorly or Al Tally, is a respected member of the British Wikimedia crowd and not just a one off prankster using a made up e-mail address. Also, this made me laugh and I would have thought that a prank with cultural significance (due to the date), that is reveleaded to be such, is also interesting for intercultural learning instead of the opposite.
To single out single members of the community, especially respected contributors on and off site, and calling them idiots I think is far worse.
Ian [[User:Poeloq]]
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:49 PM, Brian Brian.Mingus@colorado.edu wrote:
I've just finished coding up Non-Free Content Bot which spiders Google Images and uploads 10 per second to commons with no license information. I wrote the bot using MediaWiki's turing complete template language. Given that Google Images has 916,000,000 images I anticipate it will take 2.90269084 years to finish.
On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Al Tally <majorly.wiki@googlemail.com
wrote:
Hi all
I just came across this[1] policy on Commons, which states that from
today,
non-free content is going to be allowed to be uploaded on Commons. I'm rather shocked that this was pushed through without any notice here, or anywhere, and it has become policy, going against Wikimedia's "free content" philosophy. Can people please input on the talk page as soon as possible please, so we can get this reversed.
Thanks,
-- Alex (User:Majorly)
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