"Meanwhile, the stewards have had to combat an increasing amount of
vandalism on the small wikis, and even though global rollbackers can help
some, blocking vandals and deleting nonsense pages ultimately becomes the
job of just a few of the active stewards."
If global sysops is such a controversial idea, why don't we abandon it in
favor of either:
A) More stewards, possibly even with a special election on an emergency
basis.
B) Get a sysop recruitment drive going on those wikis which need sysops.
Either drum up support from within these smaller communities or try and
attract interest from older wikis that have plenty of sysops. Of course, the
big barrier here might be language.
Steven Walling
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Andrew Leung <andrewcleung(a)hotmail.com>wrote;wrote:
I doubt it will generate enough interest this time around. Many of us are
just tired of seeing this proposal (and its variants) dragging on and on, to
the point that we just don't bother to show up and say no.
Andrew
"Fill the world with children who care and things start looking up."
From: nw.wikipedia(a)gmail.com
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 21:55:25 -0400
To: foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Foundation-l] Opt-out global sysop proposal
Many of the list regulars might remember the global sysop proposal that
had
been brought up around May and June 2009. The
idea ultimately fizzled,
because there was simply not enough support to actually have a global,
non-opt out sysop group. Since then, a new proposal has been drawn up,
which
is currently running, that allows communities to
opt-in to a global sysop
wikiset, which would allow users in the global sysop usergroup to act as
sysops only on those wikis. However, the issue with this is that no
project
has actually bothered to opt-in, so the process
has been dead for the
better
part of a year. Meanwhile, the stewards have had
to combat an increasing
amount of vandalism on the small wikis, and even though global
rollbackers
can help some, blocking vandals and deleting
nonsense pages ultimately
becomes the job of just a few of the active stewards.
The situation could be easily remedied if there were a global sysop
group;
there are a good number of trustworthy global
rollbackers who would be
excellent global sysops. I drew up a proposal to automatically opt-in
"small
wikis" (as defined within the below
proposal) into a global sysop
wikiset.
Global sysops would have full administrator tools
on those wikis, but
would
use them only in response to blatant vandalism.
Please take a look at the
third link and give your opinions about the proposal on the talk page.
2008 Proposal:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_sysops_(2008_proposal)
Current process (opt-in), inactive:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_sysops
Opt-out proposal:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Global_sysops/opt-out_proposal
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