Dear All,
Throughout the discussion about the appointment of Arnnon Geshuri to the Board of Trustees, the Board has carefully listened to you and discussed internally. Earlier today, Arnnon decided to step down from the Board. To paraphrase his words, he doesn't want to be a distraction for the important discussions that the community and the Foundation need to face in the times to come. We want to thank Arnnon for his ongoing commitment and for helping us to move forward.
The Board Governance Committee is working to improve and update our selection processes before we fill the vacancy left by Arnnon’s departure. We are sorry for the distress and confusion this has caused to some in our community, and also to Arnnon.
Patricio and Alice
----
Patricio Lorente Chair, Board of Trustees
Alice Wiegand Vice Chair, Board of Trustees --
Thank you, Arnnon!
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Patricio Lorente patricio.lorente@gmail.com wrote:
Dear All,
Throughout the discussion about the appointment of Arnnon Geshuri to the Board of Trustees, the Board has carefully listened to you and discussed internally. Earlier today, Arnnon decided to step down from the Board. To paraphrase his words, he doesn't want to be a distraction for the important discussions that the community and the Foundation need to face in the times to come. We want to thank Arnnon for his ongoing commitment and for helping us to move forward.
The Board Governance Committee is working to improve and update our selection processes before we fill the vacancy left by Arnnon’s departure. We are sorry for the distress and confusion this has caused to some in our community, and also to Arnnon.
Patricio and Alice
Patricio Lorente Chair, Board of Trustees
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On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you, Arnnon!
Indeed. Thank you, Arnnon, and best wishes to you.
Given that this matter is concluded, can the board now please come to a decision on whether the Knight Foundation grant letter and grant application documents will be posted on Meta, and if not, provide an explanation to the community why they cannot be made public?
To recap, Jimmy Wales said over two weeks ago on his talk page[1] that in his opinion the documentation should be posted on Meta, to clear the air around this issue. However, nothing appears to have happened since then.
Andreas
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AJimbo_Wales&diff=...
Throughout the discussion about the appointment of Arnnon Geshuri to the Board of Trustees, the Board has carefully listened to you and discussed internally. Earlier today, Arnnon decided to step down from the Board. To paraphrase his words, he doesn't want to be a distraction for the important discussions that the community and the Foundation need to face in the times to come. We want to thank Arnnon for his ongoing commitment and for helping us to move forward.
Thank you, Arnnon (and the rest of the board) for making the right decision.
Chris
Thank you Arnnon for helping us move forward.
Sydney Sydney Poore User:FloNight Wikipedian in Residence at Cochrane Collaboration
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you, Arnnon!
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 9:52 PM, Patricio Lorente patricio.lorente@gmail.com wrote:
Dear All,
Throughout the discussion about the appointment of Arnnon Geshuri to the Board of Trustees, the Board has carefully listened to you and discussed internally. Earlier today, Arnnon decided to step down from the Board. To paraphrase his words, he doesn't want to be a distraction for the important discussions that the community and the Foundation need to face in the times to come. We want to thank Arnnon for his ongoing commitment and for helping us to move forward.
The Board Governance Committee is working to improve and update our selection processes before we fill the vacancy left by Arnnon’s departure. We are sorry for the distress and confusion this has caused to some in our community, and also to Arnnon.
Patricio and Alice
Patricio Lorente Chair, Board of Trustees
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On 27/01/2016 21:04, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you, Arnnon!
Indeed. Thank you, Arnnon, and best wishes to you.
This is a reminder that very little touched by Google remains untainted, in the UK we hope that George Osborne follows suite.
Thank you Arnnon.
Vito
Il 27/01/2016 21:52, Patricio Lorente ha scritto:
Dear All,
Throughout the discussion about the appointment of Arnnon Geshuri to the Board of Trustees, the Board has carefully listened to you and discussed internally. Earlier today, Arnnon decided to step down from the Board. To paraphrase his words, he doesn't want to be a distraction for the important discussions that the community and the Foundation need to face in the times to come. We want to thank Arnnon for his ongoing commitment and for helping us to move forward.
The Board Governance Committee is working to improve and update our selection processes before we fill the vacancy left by Arnnon’s departure. We are sorry for the distress and confusion this has caused to some in our community, and also to Arnnon.
Patricio and Alice
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Thank you for the update. I'm sure that it has been difficult for all involved. Best wishes, /a
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 1:11 PM, Lilburne lilburne@tygers-of-wrath.net wrote:
On 27/01/2016 21:04, Andreas Kolbe wrote:
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Milos Rancic millosh@gmail.com wrote:
Thank you, Arnnon!
Indeed. Thank you, Arnnon, and best wishes to you.
This is a reminder that very little touched by Google remains untainted, in the UK we hope that George Osborne follows suite.
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Thank you, Patricio.
And thank you, Arnnon. I am sure this must have been difficult for you, that you had every intention of bringing your best work to the role, and that your considerable experience and skills would have been valuable. I appreciate your willingness to step up to the task, which is not a small thing to ask of anyone, and now in light of the challenges and complications it would bring, your willingness to step down.
-Kat
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:52 PM, Patricio Lorente patricio.lorente@gmail.com wrote:
Dear All,
Throughout the discussion about the appointment of Arnnon Geshuri to the Board of Trustees, the Board has carefully listened to you and discussed internally. Earlier today, Arnnon decided to step down from the Board. To paraphrase his words, he doesn't want to be a distraction for the important discussions that the community and the Foundation need to face in the times to come. We want to thank Arnnon for his ongoing commitment and for helping us to move forward.
The Board Governance Committee is working to improve and update our selection processes before we fill the vacancy left by Arnnon’s departure. We are sorry for the distress and confusion this has caused to some in our community, and also to Arnnon.
Patricio and Alice
Patricio Lorente Chair, Board of Trustees
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hi,
Since I am one of the few people in the movement who spoke to Arnnon face-to-face, I want to write that he is a really modest, while sparking-bright person, explicitly enthusiastic about Wikimedia and free knowledge.
I want to thank him for his maturity and confirming in action the willingness to support our movement in any way it needs. While it was the right thing to do, it could not have been easy, and I have to say I really respect that.
best,
Dariusz
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Kat Walsh kat@mindspillage.org wrote:
Thank you, Patricio.
And thank you, Arnnon. I am sure this must have been difficult for you, that you had every intention of bringing your best work to the role, and that your considerable experience and skills would have been valuable. I appreciate your willingness to step up to the task, which is not a small thing to ask of anyone, and now in light of the challenges and complications it would bring, your willingness to step down.
-Kat
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:52 PM, Patricio Lorente patricio.lorente@gmail.com wrote:
Dear All,
Throughout the discussion about the appointment of Arnnon Geshuri to the Board of Trustees, the Board has carefully listened to you and discussed internally. Earlier today, Arnnon decided to step down from the Board. To paraphrase his words, he doesn't want to be a distraction for the
important
discussions that the community and the Foundation need to face in the
times
to come. We want to thank Arnnon for his ongoing commitment and for
helping
us to move forward.
The Board Governance Committee is working to improve and update our selection processes before we fill the vacancy left by Arnnon’s
departure.
We are sorry for the distress and confusion this has caused to some in
our
community, and also to Arnnon.
Patricio and Alice
Patricio Lorente Chair, Board of Trustees
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Thankyou Arnnon. I imagine it can't have been a pleasant decision for you to make when you obviously feel that you have a lot to contribute, but I think your decision is in the best interests of the Foundation and of the movement generally, and for that I am appreciative.
Cheers, Craig Franklin
On 28 January 2016 at 06:52, Patricio Lorente patricio.lorente@gmail.com wrote:
Dear All,
Throughout the discussion about the appointment of Arnnon Geshuri to the Board of Trustees, the Board has carefully listened to you and discussed internally. Earlier today, Arnnon decided to step down from the Board. To paraphrase his words, he doesn't want to be a distraction for the important discussions that the community and the Foundation need to face in the times to come. We want to thank Arnnon for his ongoing commitment and for helping us to move forward.
The Board Governance Committee is working to improve and update our selection processes before we fill the vacancy left by Arnnon’s departure. We are sorry for the distress and confusion this has caused to some in our community, and also to Arnnon.
Patricio and Alice
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On 01/27/2016 03:52 PM, Patricio Lorente wrote:
Dear All,
Throughout the discussion about the appointment of Arnnon Geshuri to the Board of Trustees, the Board has carefully listened to you and discussed internally. Earlier today, Arnnon decided to step down from the Board.
Thank you to Arnnon and the Board.
I'm sorry this situation arose, but this was the best way to resolve it.
Best wishes,
Matt Flaschen
For once, I think any +1 message will be useful to demonstrate how this decision was expected by a large number of people, across several language community.
Thanks
Charles
Le 27 janv. 2016 à 21:52, Patricio Lorente patricio.lorente@gmail.com a écrit :
Dear All,
Throughout the discussion about the appointment of Arnnon Geshuri to the Board of Trustees, the Board has carefully listened to you and discussed internally. Earlier today, Arnnon decided to step down from the Board. To paraphrase his words, he doesn't want to be a distraction for the important discussions that the community and the Foundation need to face in the times to come. We want to thank Arnnon for his ongoing commitment and for helping us to move forward.
The Board Governance Committee is working to improve and update our selection processes before we fill the vacancy left by Arnnon’s departure. We are sorry for the distress and confusion this has caused to some in our community, and also to Arnnon.
Patricio and Alice
Patricio Lorente Chair, Board of Trustees
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I believe Kat says it well.
-- Philippe Beaudette
On Jan 27, 2016, at 1:44 PM, Kat Walsh kat@mindspillage.org wrote:
Thank you, Patricio.
And thank you, Arnnon. I am sure this must have been difficult for you, that you had every intention of bringing your best work to the role, and that your considerable experience and skills would have been valuable. I appreciate your willingness to step up to the task, which is not a small thing to ask of anyone, and now in light of the challenges and complications it would bring, your willingness to step down.
-Kat
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 12:52 PM, Patricio Lorente patricio.lorente@gmail.com wrote:
Dear All,
Throughout the discussion about the appointment of Arnnon Geshuri to the Board of Trustees, the Board has carefully listened to you and discussed internally. Earlier today, Arnnon decided to step down from the Board. To paraphrase his words, he doesn't want to be a distraction for the important discussions that the community and the Foundation need to face in the times to come. We want to thank Arnnon for his ongoing commitment and for helping us to move forward.
The Board Governance Committee is working to improve and update our selection processes before we fill the vacancy left by Arnnon’s departure. We are sorry for the distress and confusion this has caused to some in our community, and also to Arnnon.
Patricio and Alice
Patricio Lorente Chair, Board of Trustees
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On 1/27/2016 1:44 PM, Kat Walsh wrote:
Thank you, Patricio.
And thank you, Arnnon. I am sure this must have been difficult for you, that you had every intention of bringing your best work to the role, and that your considerable experience and skills would have been valuable. I appreciate your willingness to step up to the task, which is not a small thing to ask of anyone, and now in light of the challenges and complications it would bring, your willingness to step down.
-Kat
If Kat can echo me, then I can echo Kat. Thank you to the Board, and Arnnon in particular.
--Michael Snow
+1 On Jan 27, 2016 10:18 PM, "Michael Snow" wikipedia@frontier.com wrote:
On 1/27/2016 1:44 PM, Kat Walsh wrote:
Thank you, Patricio.
And thank you, Arnnon. I am sure this must have been difficult for you, that you had every intention of bringing your best work to the role, and that your considerable experience and skills would have been valuable. I appreciate your willingness to step up to the task, which is not a small thing to ask of anyone, and now in light of the challenges and complications it would bring, your willingness to step down.
-Kat
If Kat can echo me, then I can echo Kat. Thank you to the Board, and Arnnon in particular.
--Michael Snow
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+1.
Shani. On 28 Jan 2016 08:18, "Michael Snow" wikipedia@frontier.com wrote:
On 1/27/2016 1:44 PM, Kat Walsh wrote:
Thank you, Patricio.
And thank you, Arnnon. I am sure this must have been difficult for you, that you had every intention of bringing your best work to the role, and that your considerable experience and skills would have been valuable. I appreciate your willingness to step up to the task, which is not a small thing to ask of anyone, and now in light of the challenges and complications it would bring, your willingness to step down.
-Kat
If Kat can echo me, then I can echo Kat. Thank you to the Board, and Arnnon in particular.
--Michael Snow
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Thank you. This was the right thing to do in the circumstances.
Michael (writing in my personal capacity)
Patricio Lorente wrote:
Dear All,
Throughout the discussion about the appointment of Arnnon Geshuri to the Board of Trustees, the Board has carefully listened to you and discussed internally. Earlier today, Arnnon decided to step down from the Board. To paraphrase his words, he doesn't want to be a distraction for the important discussions that the community and the Foundation need to face in the times to come. We want to thank Arnnon for his ongoing commitment and for helping us to move forward.
The Board Governance Committee is working to improve and update our selection processes before we fill the vacancy left by Arnnon’s departure. We are sorry for the distress and confusion this has caused to some in our community, and also to Arnnon.
Patricio and Alice
Patricio Lorente Chair, Board of Trustees
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Le 28/01/16 07:18, Michael Snow a écrit :
On 1/27/2016 1:44 PM, Kat Walsh wrote:
Thank you, Patricio.
And thank you, Arnnon. I am sure this must have been difficult for you, that you had every intention of bringing your best work to the role, and that your considerable experience and skills would have been valuable. I appreciate your willingness to step up to the task, which is not a small thing to ask of anyone, and now in light of the challenges and complications it would bring, your willingness to step down.
-Kat
If Kat can echo me, then I can echo Kat. Thank you to the Board, and Arnnon in particular.
--Michael Snow
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Echo echo echo.
Thank you Arnnon and Board.
Anthere
Thank you, Patricio, for the heads-up. I’m sure that it must’ve been difficult for everyone, especially those on the Board.
It was very honorable of Arnnon to step down in deference to the community, and I hope that while we may be indignant at his past actions, we can continue to find places for people in our community who may show an interest in what we do but to who we don’t always see eye-to-eye on our values. While I still think that this episode will generate a whole lot of lessons for us to learn from, I hope that Arnnon will continue to engage with the movement in a meaningful way even though he is no longer a part of the Board. Thank you for taking heed of the community, and I hope that despite what may be a rude awakening, that you will find your place among us, somehow, somewhere in the movement.
Hopefully, now that this episode has come to a close, we can finally begin the process of healing and figuring out what went wrong. There’s still a lot of things left unaccounted for, and I hope that after this, the Board will continue to build on that momentum by doing the right thing and helping the community understand what on Earth happened over the last few weeks so we can finally move forward.
Josh
Wiadomość napisana przez Patricio Lorente patricio.lorente@gmail.com w dniu 28.01.2016, o godz. 04:52:
Dear All,
Throughout the discussion about the appointment of Arnnon Geshuri to the Board of Trustees, the Board has carefully listened to you and discussed internally. Earlier today, Arnnon decided to step down from the Board. To paraphrase his words, he doesn't want to be a distraction for the important discussions that the community and the Foundation need to face in the times to come. We want to thank Arnnon for his ongoing commitment and for helping us to move forward.
The Board Governance Committee is working to improve and update our selection processes before we fill the vacancy left by Arnnon’s departure. We are sorry for the distress and confusion this has caused to some in our community, and also to Arnnon.
Patricio and Alice
Patricio Lorente Chair, Board of Trustees
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+1
Am 28.01.2016 um 13:04 schrieb Josh Lim:
Thank you, Patricio, for the heads-up. I’m sure that it must’ve been difficult for everyone, especially those on the Board.
It was very honorable of Arnnon to step down in deference to the community, and I hope that while we may be indignant at his past actions, we can continue to find places for people in our community who may show an interest in what we do but to who we don’t always see eye-to-eye on our values. While I still think that this episode will generate a whole lot of lessons for us to learn from, I hope that Arnnon will continue to engage with the movement in a meaningful way even though he is no longer a part of the Board. Thank you for taking heed of the community, and I hope that despite what may be a rude awakening, that you will find your place among us, somehow, somewhere in the movement.
Hopefully, now that this episode has come to a close, we can finally begin the process of healing and figuring out what went wrong. There’s still a lot of things left unaccounted for, and I hope that after this, the Board will continue to build on that momentum by doing the right thing and helping the community understand what on Earth happened over the last few weeks so we can finally move forward.
Josh
Wiadomość napisana przez Patricio Lorente patricio.lorente@gmail.com w dniu 28.01.2016, o godz. 04:52:
Dear All,
Throughout the discussion about the appointment of Arnnon Geshuri to the Board of Trustees, the Board has carefully listened to you and discussed internally. Earlier today, Arnnon decided to step down from the Board. To paraphrase his words, he doesn't want to be a distraction for the important discussions that the community and the Foundation need to face in the times to come. We want to thank Arnnon for his ongoing commitment and for helping us to move forward.
The Board Governance Committee is working to improve and update our selection processes before we fill the vacancy left by Arnnon’s departure. We are sorry for the distress and confusion this has caused to some in our community, and also to Arnnon.
Patricio and Alice
Patricio Lorente Chair, Board of Trustees
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Hi Josh,
I agree there are solid improvements to be made with respect to recruiting of our trustees, and with partnering with our community. Perhaps the election committee can play a role in checking out the finalists, for example.
On-boarding trustees and leadership is a critical process, during which it can be so easy to make unexpected mistakes. For trustees and leadership coming from outside of our movement, being aligned with our vision and our values is simply the first step in the process. As I have learned, from there it is a long and difficult journey to learn what matters *most* to our diverse community, and to align those values with the Foundation. I am still learning, and will never stop learning, growing and adapting. Similarly, when trustees and leadership come from the *within* the movement, they must adapt to and grok new perspectives, and see with new lenses.
An essential part of improving our governance involves welcoming our incoming trustees and leadership, integrating them into our movement, and providing support and guidance as they take their important first steps.
I know this is something our trustees are actively thinking about.
Lila
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 4:04 AM, Josh Lim jamesjoshualim@yahoo.com wrote:
Thank you, Patricio, for the heads-up. I’m sure that it must’ve been difficult for everyone, especially those on the Board.
It was very honorable of Arnnon to step down in deference to the community, and I hope that while we may be indignant at his past actions, we can continue to find places for people in our community who may show an interest in what we do but to who we don’t always see eye-to-eye on our values. While I still think that this episode will generate a whole lot of lessons for us to learn from, I hope that Arnnon will continue to engage with the movement in a meaningful way even though he is no longer a part of the Board. Thank you for taking heed of the community, and I hope that despite what may be a rude awakening, that you will find your place among us, somehow, somewhere in the movement.
Hopefully, now that this episode has come to a close, we can finally begin the process of healing and figuring out what went wrong. There’s still a lot of things left unaccounted for, and I hope that after this, the Board will continue to build on that momentum by doing the right thing and helping the community understand what on Earth happened over the last few weeks so we can finally move forward.
Josh
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w dniu 28.01.2016, o godz. 04:52:
Dear All,
Throughout the discussion about the appointment of Arnnon Geshuri to the Board of Trustees, the Board has carefully listened to you and discussed internally. Earlier today, Arnnon decided to step down from the Board. To paraphrase his words, he doesn't want to be a distraction for the
important
discussions that the community and the Foundation need to face in the
times
to come. We want to thank Arnnon for his ongoing commitment and for
helping
us to move forward.
The Board Governance Committee is working to improve and update our selection processes before we fill the vacancy left by Arnnon’s
departure.
We are sorry for the distress and confusion this has caused to some in
our
community, and also to Arnnon.
Patricio and Alice
Patricio Lorente Chair, Board of Trustees
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Patricio, et al
Are we any closer to having public comments from the BoT on how the Arrnon debacle was able to occur?
I am especially interested in how Boryana fits in with this. Given Boryana's shared history t Telsa with Arnnon, she would surely have known about Arnnon's past at Google, but it would appear this past was never mentioned in the presentation to the board by her. At best this could be seen as an attempt to secure "jobs for the boys"; at worst it can be seen as incompetence on the part of Boryana.
On 11 January, Lila Tretikov posted to this very list,[1] and stated:
"I would like to thank everyone involved in this search, especially Amy Elder and Boryana , who managed the recruiting process through a new, open approach."
When was this "new, open approach" to recruitment introduced? It certainly was not prior to the appoinment of Arnnon to the Board, otherwise we wouldn't be where we are at now. And what is this "new, open approach"?
Unfortunately for Lila, she has now publicly backed her HR team, and as she would certainly have been involved in the recruitment of Boryana, this reflects poorly on her as well. Lila already has enough issues to deal with, as they relate to her tenure as WMF ED, particularly if Gayle Young is to be believed (there is nothing to suggest she shouldn't!)[2]
I look forward to a response Patricio, rather than the sound of crickets that the community has come to expect from the WMF, the BoT and yourself over the last month.
Warm regards,
Ruslan Takayev
[1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-January/080987.html [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Requests_for_comment/Vote_of_no...
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 4:52 AM, Patricio Lorente < patricio.lorente@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
Throughout the discussion about the appointment of Arnnon Geshuri to the Board of Trustees, the Board has carefully listened to you and discussed internally. Earlier today, Arnnon decided to step down from the Board. To paraphrase his words, he doesn't want to be a distraction for the important discussions that the community and the Foundation need to face in the times to come. We want to thank Arnnon for his ongoing commitment and for helping us to move forward.
The Board Governance Committee is working to improve and update our selection processes before we fill the vacancy left by Arnnon’s departure. We are sorry for the distress and confusion this has caused to some in our community, and also to Arnnon.
Patricio and Alice
Patricio Lorente Chair, Board of Trustees
Alice Wiegand Vice Chair, Board of Trustees -- _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
I am bumping this thread because I am very much interested in the questions about the nature of the "new, open approach" to Board member recruiting that led to the situation with Arnnon. Also, it is regrettably difficult to avoid asking questions about the extent to which Boryana knew of Arnnon's background and whether she adequately informed the governance committee of what she knew.
Pine
On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 7:59 AM, Ruslan Takayev ruslan.takayev@gmail.com wrote:
Patricio, et al
Are we any closer to having public comments from the BoT on how the Arrnon debacle was able to occur?
I am especially interested in how Boryana fits in with this. Given Boryana's shared history t Telsa with Arnnon, she would surely have known about Arnnon's past at Google, but it would appear this past was never mentioned in the presentation to the board by her. At best this could be seen as an attempt to secure "jobs for the boys"; at worst it can be seen as incompetence on the part of Boryana.
On 11 January, Lila Tretikov posted to this very list,[1] and stated:
"I would like to thank everyone involved in this search, especially Amy Elder and Boryana , who managed the recruiting process through a new, open approach."
When was this "new, open approach" to recruitment introduced? It certainly was not prior to the appoinment of Arnnon to the Board, otherwise we wouldn't be where we are at now. And what is this "new, open approach"?
Unfortunately for Lila, she has now publicly backed her HR team, and as she would certainly have been involved in the recruitment of Boryana, this reflects poorly on her as well. Lila already has enough issues to deal with, as they relate to her tenure as WMF ED, particularly if Gayle Young is to be believed (there is nothing to suggest she shouldn't!)[2]
I look forward to a response Patricio, rather than the sound of crickets that the community has come to expect from the WMF, the BoT and yourself over the last month.
Warm regards,
Ruslan Takayev
[1] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-January/080987.html [2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Requests_for_comment/Vote_of_no...
On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 4:52 AM, Patricio Lorente < patricio.lorente@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All,
Throughout the discussion about the appointment of Arnnon Geshuri to the Board of Trustees, the Board has carefully listened to you and discussed internally. Earlier today, Arnnon decided to step down from the Board. To paraphrase his words, he doesn't want to be a distraction for the
important
discussions that the community and the Foundation need to face in the
times
to come. We want to thank Arnnon for his ongoing commitment and for
helping
us to move forward.
The Board Governance Committee is working to improve and update our selection processes before we fill the vacancy left by Arnnon’s
departure.
We are sorry for the distress and confusion this has caused to some in
our
community, and also to Arnnon.
Patricio and Alice
Patricio Lorente Chair, Board of Trustees
Alice Wiegand Vice Chair, Board of Trustees -- _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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