Still working on http://wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising and its subpages. Per Friday's meeting, here is my suggested tier scheme for the currency-specific versions of http://wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising/USD/monthly and http://wikimedia.org/wiki/Fundraising/USD/yearly
MONTHLY Tier USD JPY EUR CAD GBP 1 2.5 300 2 3.5 1.5 2 5 500 4 7 3 3 10 1100 8 15 5 4 15 1500 10 20 8 5 20 2000 15 25 10 6 25 3000 20 30 15 7 35 4000 30 45 20 8 50 6000 40 65 30 9 70 8000 60 90 40 10 100 11000 80 130 55
YEARLY Tier USD JPY EUR CAD GBP 1 30 3600 24 42 18 2 60 6000 48 84 36 3 120 13200 96 180 60 4 180 18000 120 240 96 5 240 24000 180 300 120 6 300 36000 240 360 180 7 420 48000 360 540 240 8 600 72000 480 780 360 9 840 96000 720 1080 480 10 1200 132000 960 1560 660
Whatever we use, I would like to have the yearly amounts be exactly 12 times the monthly ones but will do whatever most people want. NOTE: PayPal recognizes at most 10 options and the above are *not* exact currency conversions; a good deal of rounding - sometimes up, sometimes down - was used on many values.
If there are no suggestions for improvement, I'll go ahead and start to implement the above in 24 hours (first for English, then for the other languages; translators can start work now by using the visible text as a guide). The handful of people who have WMF wiki accounts should feel free to suggest changes by making them (I plan to mirror each of these pages on Meta once everything settles down; but that is just too much work right now).
NOTE: I already plan to add more explanatory text. Any suggestions welcome.
See aslo: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Fundraising_pages
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
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Perhaps fewer than 10 options would also work? Anything over 6 starts to make my head spin. I can't remember seeing so many options on many donation forms in the past.
SJ
--- Sj 2.718281828@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps fewer than 10 options would also work? Anything over 6 starts to make my head spin. I can't remember seeing so many options on many donation forms in the past.
I agree - but which of the current tiers should be dropped?
We must balance information overload with giving people choice.
-- mav
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5, 10, 20, 35, 50, 100.
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 19:45:21 -0700 (PDT), Daniel Mayer maveric149@yahoo.com wrote:
--- Sj 2.718281828@gmail.com wrote:
Perhaps fewer than 10 options would also work? Anything over 6 starts to make my head spin. I can't remember seeing so many options on many
I agree - but which of the current tiers should be dropped?
--- Sj 2.718281828@gmail.com wrote:
5, 10, 20, 35, 50, 100.
Done.
See http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Fundraising/USD http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Fundraising/USD/monthly http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Fundraising/USD/yearly
I've also created versions for CAD, JPY, EUR, and GBP.
The templates I'm using are now fully translatable (using variables).
Example: {{creditcards|1=PayPal accepts the above payment options}}
{{DonationForm/Onetime/JPY|OnetimeDonation=One time donation|OneTimeGiftOf=One time gift of:|MoneyName=yen|ShortComment=Short public comment (200 characters)|MentionName=Do you want your name mentioned in a donor list?|Yes=Yes|No=No|IfNo=If you say no or don't answer, the amount and comment (if any) will be published as "Anonymous".|Optional=Optional field|Submit=Submit form to PayPal|Clear=Clear form}}
Calls upon: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Template:DonationForm/Onetime/JPY
To yield: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Fundraising/JPY/onetime
(everything between = and | in the example can be changed and thus create a language-specific version)
Major changes also made by Erik, Angela and I at: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Fundraising
Non-English versions now need to be created.
-- mav
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Daniel Mayer a écrit:
--- Sj 2.718281828@gmail.com wrote:
5, 10, 20, 35, 50, 100.
Done.
See http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Fundraising/USD http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Fundraising/USD/monthly http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Fundraising/USD/yearly
I've also created versions for CAD, JPY, EUR, and GBP.
The templates I'm using are now fully translatable (using variables).
Example: {{creditcards|1=PayPal accepts the above payment options}}
{{DonationForm/Onetime/JPY|OnetimeDonation=One time donation|OneTimeGiftOf=One time gift of:|MoneyName=yen|ShortComment=Short public comment (200 characters)|MentionName=Do you want your name mentioned in a donor list?|Yes=Yes|No=No|IfNo=If you say no or don't answer, the amount and comment (if any) will be published as "Anonymous".|Optional=Optional field|Submit=Submit form to PayPal|Clear=Clear form}}
Calls upon: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Template:DonationForm/Onetime/JPY
To yield: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Fundraising/JPY/onetime
(everything between = and | in the example can be changed and thus create a language-specific version)
Major changes also made by Erik, Angela and I at: http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Fundraising
Non-English versions now need to be created.
-- mav
I entirely changed the french version which was not working at all any more. Hopefully works better now.
I have a problem though. I think no language version will be identical one to another. It is a pain to just do translations and not be creative as well. I change the french page in a way that seemed nice to me. I come back the next day, and the english page is entirely changed and I should entirely do the french version again ? How are we gonna update all languages each time the english version is changed ? This will be a very difficult task. I am at a loss of how we can handle this properly, in a way not to discourage translators.
Anthere-
How are we gonna update all languages each time the english version is changed ? This will be a very difficult task. I am at a loss of how we can handle this properly, in a way not to discourage translators.
I see two strategies: 1) Agree on one language to finish it in first, then freeze (protect) it and do all the translations. Make this freeze deadline clear from the start. 2) Make a checklist of facts. Don't worry about the differences in design as long as the facts are presented accurately.
In this case, I prefer strategy 2).
Regards,
Erik
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