There is an ongoing vote on the Wikimedia Commons logo at:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Logo/Vote
You need an account on the Commons to vote. Some people complained that not enough people have had an opportunity to hear about this. I disagree - it's a project-internal vote - but I've nevertheless extended the deadline by another week. I've also contacted the designer of the currently winning logo regarding copyright transfer to the foundation.
Jimbo: The "This vote should be regarded as an inconclusive, unofficial informal poll with no particular weight" comment on Commons:Logo is not helpful. Please remove it at your discretion or clarify what else needs to be done.
Regards,
Erik
On 07 Nov 2004 02:13:00 +0100, Erik Moeller erik_moeller@gmx.de wrote:
There is an ongoing vote on the Wikimedia Commons logo at:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Logo/Vote
You need an account on the Commons to vote. Some people complained that not enough people have had an opportunity to hear about this. I disagree - it's a project-internal vote - but I've nevertheless extended the deadline by another week. I've also contacted the designer of the currently winning logo regarding copyright transfer to the foundation.
Jimbo: The "This vote should be regarded as an inconclusive, unofficial informal poll with no particular weight" comment on Commons:Logo is not helpful. Please remove it at your discretion or clarify what else needs to be done.
Regards,
Erik
Do we even know that it's really Jimbo? It doesn't sound like something he would say, especially without even voting, but I could be wrong.
Dori wrote:
Jimbo: The "This vote should be regarded as an inconclusive, unofficial informal poll with no particular weight" comment on Commons:Logo is not helpful. Please remove it at your discretion or clarify what else needs to be done.
Regards,
Erik
Do we even know that it's really Jimbo? It doesn't sound like something he would say, especially without even voting, but I could be wrong.
Yes, it was me. It's not appropriate to have a brief vote on an obscure and generally unannounced web page and imagine that the results would be official. Informal polls are of course fine, and can help us to build a consensus for good decisions.
There is the additional problem that legal rights to the logo candidates should be cleared before the voting, to avoid confusion.
--Jimbo
Jimmy-
Yes, it was me. It's not appropriate to have a brief vote on an obscure and generally unannounced web page
The Wikimedia Commons homepage is hardly "obscure", and that is where the vote was prominently linked, in bold text. Unlike Wikipedia, all the Wikimedia Commons languages are stored in the same wiki. Anyone working on the Commons on a regular basis will have noticed the vote. That is for whom it was intended.
Before you made your ex cathedra announcement that the vote was to be considered "inconclusive", "unofficial" and "informal", 99 votes had already been cast - hardly a small sample, particularly considering that 50 of these votes were cast for a single logo, which will clearly be the winner even if we keep this up for 3 months.
There currently exists, to my knowledge, no written policy on logo copyrights or the procedure for choosing new logos. As always, we try to improve our procedures along every step of the way. I have no problem whatsoever with requiring the transfer of copyright to the Wikimedia Foundation for the winning logo before we put it into use. I do have a problem with the way this issue was handled, with no prior communication, no clear path of resolution, and an ex cathedra announcement. I am readily available for communication, so there is really no good reason for that.
Again, now that we agree that a copyright transfer is necessary, the deadline has been extended and the vote has been more broadly announced, I ask you to remove or rephrase your announcement on Commons:Logo as a gesture of good faith.
Regards,
Erik
Hi,
Erik Moeller wrote:
There is an ongoing vote on the Wikimedia Commons logo at:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Logo/Vote
You need an account on the Commons to vote. Some people complained that not enough people have had an opportunity to hear about this. I disagree - it's a project-internal vote -
Wiki Commons is intended to serve all wikimedia projects, it's not project-internal. If you don't announce such a vote on the mailinglist people have no chance to inform their projects about it.
but I've nevertheless extended the deadline by another week.
One week is still rather short for a project wide vote.
I've also contacted the designer of the currently winning logo regarding copyright transfer to the foundation.
Thank you. This should be done before any vote is started usually. Status of the existing logos is still unresolved, we don't need even more logos with unclear status.
greetings, elian
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