On 9 April 2011 23:39, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
On 9 April 2011 23:27, Casey Brown lists@caseybrown.org wrote:
On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 11:20 PM, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
This is an area where every project is going to have its own take on
things,
and we can probably learn from each other's experience; however, what information there is seems to be housed on the strategy wiki, which many users avoid because it's not part of the WMF matrix (i.e., SUL doesn't apply). With that in mind, I wonder if there can be a place where
projects
discuss what has helped and not helped, located somewhere on Meta.
Since when does SUL not apply on strategywiki?
As far as I know, since always, Casey. One must log in separately there; going from another WMF project, one's login doesn't follow. One of the main reasons for the creation of SUL was so users could go from WMF project to project without having to log in again; partly for ease of use, but also because there are an awful lot of editors who don't want to link their usernames to their IP addresses, even accidentally. Especially now that most experienced users take SUL for granted, it's a barrier to participation when a link to a WMF project seeking broad participation requires editors to log in again, and hope that someone else hasn't created an account with their username first.
Risker/Anne
Risker wrote:
As far as I know, since always, Casey. One must log in separately there; going from another WMF project, one's login doesn't follow. One of the main reasons for the creation of SUL was so users could go from WMF project to project without having to log in again; partly for ease of use, but also because there are an awful lot of editors who don't want to link their usernames to their IP addresses, even accidentally. Especially now that most experienced users take SUL for granted, it's a barrier to participation when a link to a WMF project seeking broad participation requires editors to log in again, and hope that someone else hasn't created an account with their username first.
You're both right. In a literal sense, strategy.wikimedia.org doesn't work with unified login. That is, when you log in through en.wikipedia.org or elsewhere, you won't be logged in to every place where you have a Wikimedia account of the same name. (Though I think if you log in through strategy.wikimedia.org, you get the cookies for that site and the other sites, but you still wouldn't get the cookies for other *.wikimedia.org wikis.) A lot of people say "unified login" to mean you don't need to re-register your account and that your account will be linked to a global account of the same name, not that it will be automatically logged in, however. That was Casey's confusion.
This particular issue is the subject of bug 14407.[1] Whether it's a real barrier to entry, I don't know. The people involved in content work really don't need to be sucked into the kind of place that strategy.wikimedia.org is, in my opinion. :-)
MZMcBride
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