Hello,
I had started a discussion on the Village Pump of Commons. I think Commons is a very important project, and a very complicated project. With more and more projects initiated by our chapters to encourage other organizations or individuals to give their content free and upload them to Commons it also becomes a fassade project of the Foundation and its chapters. This and other reasons make me think that we should as broadly as possible to discuss a few issues on Commons. The discussion is here:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Some_reflections_abou...
Hoi, There is a project called "Wiki loves art/nl" In this project people make pictures of objects in museums in the Netherlands. The thing I have been wondering about is that the pictures are first published on Flickr and then are copied into Commons.
This is a project of the Dutch WMF chapter and some other organisations. I read it as "there are too many problems with posting on Commons directly". The reason why I bring this up is because it demonstrates how Commons is not thought of as the helpful project it should be and it is not only pikiwiki that has a problem. Thanks, GerardM
2009/6/12 Ting Chen wing.philopp@gmx.de
Hello,
I had started a discussion on the Village Pump of Commons. I think Commons is a very important project, and a very complicated project. With more and more projects initiated by our chapters to encourage other organizations or individuals to give their content free and upload them to Commons it also becomes a fassade project of the Foundation and its chapters. This and other reasons make me think that we should as broadly as possible to discuss a few issues on Commons. The discussion is here:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#Some_reflections_abou...
-- Ting
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That is more to do with the interface to Commons, as I understand it, rather than the governance of it. Flickr is seen as being much easier to use. I believe that was also the origin of Pikiwiki - essentially creating a better interface to Commons.
BTW, to date I've never had a problem with Commons (after >2000 edits and >500 images uploaded).
Mike
On 15 Jun 2009, at 17:58, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi, There is a project called "Wiki loves art/nl" In this project people make pictures of objects in museums in the Netherlands. The thing I have been wondering about is that the pictures are first published on Flickr and then are copied into Commons.
This is a project of the Dutch WMF chapter and some other organisations. I read it as "there are too many problems with posting on Commons directly". The reason why I bring this up is because it demonstrates how Commons is not thought of as the helpful project it should be and it is not only pikiwiki that has a problem. Thanks, GerardM
2009/6/12 Ting Chen wing.philopp@gmx.de
Hello,
I had started a discussion on the Village Pump of Commons. I think Commons is a very important project, and a very complicated project. With more and more projects initiated by our chapters to encourage other organizations or individuals to give their content free and upload them to Commons it also becomes a fassade project of the Foundation and its chapters. This and other reasons make me think that we should as broadly as possible to discuss a few issues on Commons. The discussion is here:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/ Commons:Village_pump#Some_reflections_about_the_governance_of_Common
-- Ting
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The interface is only part of the problems which were identified. Also the complicated procedures and the (sometimes considered hostile - although not even always intentional) community were part of the equation. However, I do agree that the interface is a huge problem, and fixing that would probably make the odds to encounter a hostile community member smaller etc.
Lodewijk
2009/6/15 Michael Peel email@mikepeel.net
That is more to do with the interface to Commons, as I understand it, rather than the governance of it. Flickr is seen as being much easier to use. I believe that was also the origin of Pikiwiki - essentially creating a better interface to Commons.
BTW, to date I've never had a problem with Commons (after >2000 edits and >500 images uploaded).
Mike
On 15 Jun 2009, at 17:58, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi, There is a project called "Wiki loves art/nl" In this project people make pictures of objects in museums in the Netherlands. The thing I have been wondering about is that the pictures are first published on Flickr and then are copied into Commons.
This is a project of the Dutch WMF chapter and some other organisations. I read it as "there are too many problems with posting on Commons directly". The reason why I bring this up is because it demonstrates how Commons is not thought of as the helpful project it should be and it is not only pikiwiki that has a problem. Thanks, GerardM
2009/6/12 Ting Chen wing.philopp@gmx.de
Hello,
I had started a discussion on the Village Pump of Commons. I think Commons is a very important project, and a very complicated project. With more and more projects initiated by our chapters to encourage other organizations or individuals to give their content free and upload them to Commons it also becomes a fassade project of the Foundation and its chapters. This and other reasons make me think that we should as broadly as possible to discuss a few issues on Commons. The discussion is here:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/ Commons:Village_pump#Some_reflections_about_the_governance_of_Common
-- Ting
Ting's Blog: http://wingphilopp.blogspot.com/
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