Hi folks,
As week one draws to a close, I just wanted to say thanks for all the very
kind welcomes I've gotten from you all, both here & off this list. Many
people have jumped in to help me get acclimated, which I really appreciate
(as you all know, there's a truly dizzying amount of stuff to soak up :-)
So please consider this a collective thanks to everyone I haven't gotten
back to individually.
And - I want to offer my apologies in advance to anyone or any issue I'm
going to overlook in this first little while. A) I'm still getting my head
around many of the internal systems (e.g., the wikis, mailing lists, etc.),
and B) I'm wanting to focus on making first connections with a few people,
particularly the office staff. Those are my modest goals for this past week
and next; then, I've got a prior commitment that will take me completely
offline from July 7-25. That means my work won't really begin until
post-Wikimania.
I think you probably all have an idea of what I'm here to do. But to recap -
I'm a big fan of the projects, and I'm delighted to be able to come and work
with you all. And I am hoping and expecting I can help. In general: it's
clear to me, and also to the Board, that the Foundation is at a pretty
significant transition point. The bad news is, it's got some problems (lack
of administrative policies, some communications issues, some skills gaps,
etc.). The good news is, the problems are unsurprising, and for the most
part typical of young organizations, and completely fixable. Upshot: I've
seen -and grappled with- this kind of thing elsewhere, and I have a pretty
good general grasp of the kinds of things that need to happen in order for
the Foundation to get through this phase, and come out the other side
stronger and better. (The other good news, by the way, is that the projects
are -obviously- remarkably, phenomenally successful. So the core work of the
organization is in good shape.)
Of course there's an added wrinkle here, which is that Wikimedia is truly
culturally unique; it is not a 'typical' organization. Trust me - I
recognize that, and I'll respect it :-)
So again - I just wanted to thank you all for your early support. If anyone
needs to reach me over the next week or so, I'd suggest using
- I'm a Blackberry person, and that's the account
that travels with me.
Thanks,
Sue
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11. just an idea: add motivation commentary line, anonymized?
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:47:46 +0200
From: Florence Devouard <anthere(a)anthere.org>
Subject: [Foundation-l] Sue (todos)
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Erik Moeller wrote:
On 6/28/07, Stephen Bain
<stephen.bain-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w(a)public.gmane.org> wrote:
Secondly,
and this is directed more at the Board, I understand that
Sue has been hired as a "consultant and special advisor" and not as
Executive Director at least partly because of immigration-related
restrictions on the work she is presently entitled to perform in the
United States. Will the Board be providing the community with a
description of the position "consultant and special advisor"? Are
there any substantive differences between this position and that of
Executive Director?
I see no particular reason not to post Sue's job description, but I'll
ask the Chair to confirm that.
The differences between a Board-level consultant and a freshly minted
ED aren't that great, as the Board needs to build a trust relationship
with this new staff member in either case. Beyond 3-6 months in the
future, should the professional relationship develop as expected, this
status will become too limiting, and I hope the remaining constraints
can be removed within that timeframe.
Hello
I am sorry, but I was not able to find an internet connection in the
past 36 hours, and will probably be off for the week end. That was my
last move of june (*relief*).
So, yeah, things to be done
* publish Sue job description on Foundation wiki (not done yet)
* remove the reference for ED position being searched (apparently done)
on foundation
* create her asap a sgardner at
wikimedia.org
* add Sue to foundation-l, internal-l and internal wiki, office wiki,
wmfcc-l, juriwiki-l, private-l, wikimania-l, wikimania-planning-l,
fundcom-l.
* add her on staff page on foundation wiki
* add her biography on foundation wiki
* add the press release on foundation wiki
* add announcement on foundation wiki (news) with links to pages "press
release" and biography
* then breath and wait till monday :-)
Ant
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:57:10 +0900
From: Aphaia <aphaia(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Sue (todos)
To: anthere(a)wikimedia.org, "Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List"
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On 6/29/07, Florence Devouard <anthere(a)anthere.org> wrote:
So, yeah, things to be done
* publish Sue job description on Foundation wiki (not done yet)
* remove the reference for ED position being searched (apparently done)
on foundation
Done
* create her asap a sgardner at
wikimedia.org
Done and sent
* add Sue to foundation-l, internal-l and
internal wiki, office wiki,
wmfcc-l, juriwiki-l, private-l, wikimania-l, wikimania-planning-l,
fundcom-l.
* add her on staff page on foundation wiki
* add her biography on foundation wiki
* add the press release on foundation wiki
* add announcement on foundation wiki (news) with links to pages "press
release" and biography
* then breath and wait till monday :-)
* cough * vote, * cough* vote
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:02:53 +0100
From: "Sean Whitton" <sean(a)silentflame.com>
Subject: [Foundation-l] Cloaks backlog
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Just a quick note to let you all know that your cloak requests have
not been forgotten.
There is a problem with the toolserver that means I can't access the
list of submissions and also that new ones are not being accepted.
They are however, I believe, all in there and so it is just a matter
of getting at them when the toolserver admins fix things.
Please spread this knowledge if people ask, and thank you for your
patience.
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 21:39:38 +0800
From: THD <theodoranian(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Welcome Sue !
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Welcome aboard, Sue.
:)
Theodoranian
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:24:03 +0100
From: Azdiyy <azdiyy(a)googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Meta-l
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can issues relating to multiple projects, chapters, board,
and governance be discusses in the meta list
azdiyy
On 28/06/07, Stephen Bain <stephen.bain(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 6/28/07, GerardM
<gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hoi,
What is meant by MetaWiki ?
http://meta.wikimedia.org
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:29:33 +0200
From: GerardM <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Meta-l
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Hoi,
That is exactly what the foundation-l is for I would say.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 6/29/07, Azdiyy <azdiyy(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
can issues relating to multiple projects, chapters, board,
and governance be discusses in the meta list?
azdiyy
On 28/06/07, Stephen Bain <stephen.bain(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 6/28/07, GerardM
<gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hoi,
What is meant by MetaWiki ?
http://meta.wikimedia.org
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 15:48:47 +0100
From: Azdiyy <azdiyy(a)googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Meta-l
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i will start with the warning-less indef ban by one of meta
[[en:Category:Rouge admins]] who blocked my ip with no warning and
protected my talkpage.
time for [[m:association of rouge stewards]]?
thanks,
azdiyy
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:51:51 +0200
From: GerardM <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Meta-l
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Hoi,
It is a great start that will ensure that nobody will subscribe to this
list.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 6/29/07, Azdiyy <azdiyy(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
i will start with the warning-less indef ban by one of meta
[[en:Category:Rouge admins]] who blocked my ip with no warning and
protected my talkpage.
time for [[m:association of rouge stewards]]?
thanks,
azdiyy
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 17:39:13 +0200
From: "Michael Bimmler" <mbimmler(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Meta-l
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You've lost me here... First you talk of "chapters, board and
governance" and then of your meta block. Sure you recognise that these
two things are not really the same?
Michael
On 6/29/07, Azdiyy <azdiyy(a)googlemail.com> wrote:
i will start with the warning-less indef ban by
one of meta
[[en:Category:Rouge admins]] who blocked my ip with no warning and
protected my talkpage.
time for [[m:association of rouge stewards]]?
thanks,
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 16:52:14 +0100
From: Azdiyy <azdiyy(a)googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] Meta-l
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http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2007-May/030517.html
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10098
what do you suggest if admins on irc do not want to get involved,
foundation list is no the place, and friends of teh blocking admin
dont want to upset him?
an azdiyy list that no one reads? bug=?
azdiyy
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 10:18:28 +0200
From: "oscar van dillen" <oscarvandillen(a)wikimedia.org>
Subject: [Foundation-l] just an idea: add motivation commentary line,
anonymized?
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just a thought that spontaneously came to me this morning which i would
like
to share:
(i know logs are not to be published but i am just quoting myself from
#wikimedia)
[09:50]<oscar>please allow me to prompt an open question: would it not be
interesting to read the answers to an imaginary questionnaire about the
final motivation of the voters (answers as to the "why" they voted
such-and-so) [[Elections 2007/Questions to voters]] if it existed?[09:51]<
oscar>like a commentary line as we have in edits, but anonymized[09:52]<
oscar>alphabetically ordered in one big dump :-)
(...)
[09:59]<oscar>it was just a thought, like last year i suggested a debate
[09:59]<oscar>which now did take place more or less[10:00]<oscar>who knows
what happens next year?[10:02]<oscar>there could be several reasons for
doing this however, hints for the wmf or the board, for online elections
in
general and perhaps reading each other's comments is useful as
well?[10:03]<
oscar>afterwards of course[10:03]<oscar>not *during* an election
(end of quote)
curious about your opinions!
best regards,
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 17:31:39 +0900
From: Aphaia <aphaia(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] just an idea: add motivation commentary
line, anonymized?
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I had a similar - but opponent in its appearance inquiry last year.
"Why did you not vote". It helps me to organize this year Election. At
least PR for this community I asked their opinion.
But I'd love to consider such after the election. Now seeing
non-English communities hesitation for involvement (in Day 1, among
1100 votes, over 500 have come from enwiki alone, and there are only
two other community over 100 votes were casted).
Thanks,
On 6/30/07, oscar van dillen <oscarvandillen(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
just a thought that spontaneously came to me this
morning which i would
like
to share:
(i know logs are not to be published but i am just quoting myself from
#wikimedia)
[09:50]<oscar>please allow me to prompt an open question: would it not
be
interesting to read the answers to an imaginary
questionnaire about the
final motivation of the voters (answers as to the "why" they voted
such-and-so) [[Elections 2007/Questions to voters]] if it
existed?[09:51]<
oscar>like a commentary line as we have in
edits, but anonymized[09:52]<
oscar>alphabetically ordered in one big dump :-)
(...)
[09:59]<oscar>it was just a thought, like last year i suggested a debate
[09:59]<oscar>which now did take place more or less[10:00]<oscar>who
knows
what happens next year?[10:02]<oscar>there
could be several reasons for
doing this however, hints for the wmf or the board, for online elections
in
general and perhaps reading each other's
comments is useful as
well?[10:03]<
oscar>afterwards of
course[10:03]<oscar>not *during* an election
(end of quote)
curious about your opinions!
best regards,
oscar
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