Hi Yaroslav,
I like this idea of a compendium. It reminds me of cross-wiki search and
the ability to look up words on mobile Wikipedia. I believe that WMF
Discovery has been working on cross-wiki search. Perhaps, for smaller
communities, there would be a way to extend the Discovery team's efforts
into supporting the compendium that you describe. If LangCom or certain
language communities would be interested in this then I would encourage
those interested people to contact the Discovery team.
There might also be people from SWMT and from Community Tech who would be
interested in this idea.
Pine
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On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 7:40 AM, Yaroslav Blanter <ymbalt(a)gmail.com> wrote:
One idea which was spelled out many times but never
took off is that of a
Wiki-compendium. If we are talking about a language which is let us say not
endangered, has a reasonably large number of speakers but not millions, and
only has a limited number of sources published in this language - the
Wiki-community is typically not large, may be a dozen or a couple of dozens
speakers. Yakut (Sakha) is a good example of such language, Tatar would be
another one. They do not have resources to support Wikipedia, Wikisource,
and possibly even Wikibooks and Wiktionary at the same time, and they have
to concentrate on Wikipedia as the largest project. The idea was that for
such languages the traditional division between sister projects is not
really useful, but one project, which would comprise Wikipedia, Wikisource,
and possibly others would be much better so that the editors would just be
in one central place, and every speaker of this language would know what
the place is. The idea is old, at least as old as LangCom, and the fact it
never took off probably means that it is somehow flawed - I just do not
know how.
Cheers
Yaroslav
On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 3:59 PM, Amir E. Aharoni <
amir.aharoni(a)mail.huji.ac.il> wrote:
2018-02-28 16:03 GMT+02:00 Jean-Philippe Béland
<jpbeland(a)wikimedia.ca>ca>:
The Wikimedia movement is more than encyclopedias... We already have
Wikiversity for teaching, no? Are efforts to contribute to Wikiversity
and
other sister projects making us lose focus?
I'm not sure to understand
what
you are saying.
Paid translation of Wikipedia articles to underresourced languages is a
project that I can easily imagine. What needs to be done is quite clear;
the questions are how to get the resources for this, and how to make it
not
too biased for undesirable interests, neither
Western nor local.
Improving Wikiversity (or Wikibooks) is possibly a valid thing, but I
just
don't know how to do it. Of course, I'm
not the only person in this
movement; I'm just one of thousands of editors, and I also happen to be
an
analyst in the Foundation staff, and my
decision-making capacities are
very, very limited. If anybody has a *good* idea on how to improve them,
it
would be awesome.
When I compare a project with a pretty easy-to-draft path, and an
understandable goal (paid translation, growing a language's online
presence), to a project the goal of which is finding ideas for how to
improve Wikiversity, I'd bet my resources on paid translation (if it even
was my decision to make). And I have to remind again, that I, in
particular, am very biased about the topic of translation, so really, you
don't have to agree with me ;)
--
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I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore
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