The only reason why I can see two different Portuguese wikis is because the two (majority) versions -- European Portuguese and Brazillian Portuguese -- are very different. Are they? On 7/2/06, Luiz Augusto <lugusto(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Sorry for my English. Recently, a newbie from Portuguese Wikipedia has >proposed on meta a vote to create Wikipedia in european portuguese. He >don't >talked about it with any editor from pt:Wikipedia and that proposal has >discovered by me, accidentally. I send a note in Village Pump from >pt:wikipedia. More than 30 editors has voted against that proposal. >Unconsoled with this, he was suspended that voting and is imposing to, in >a >new vote about it, only europeans speakers can vote on it. > >Is all ok to the current rules for request a new language? > > >

Yes, dialect forks are just a waste of space, bandwidth and time, unless the dialects vary greatly (such as Cantonese and Mandarin). On 7/3/06, Robert Scott Horning <robert_horning(a)netzero.net> wrote: > James Hare wrote: > > >> The only reason why I can see two different Portuguese wikis is because >> > the > >> two (majority) versions -- European Portuguese and Brazillian Portuguese >> > -- > >> are very different. Are they? >> >> On 7/2/06, Luiz Augusto <lugusto(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Sorry for my English. Recently, a newbie from Portuguese Wikipedia has >>> proposed on meta a vote to create Wikipedia in european portuguese. He >>> don't >>> talked about it with any editor from pt:Wikipedia and that proposal has >>> discovered by me, accidentally. I send a note in Village Pump from >>> pt:wikipedia. More than 30 editors has voted against that proposal. >>> Unconsoled with this, he was suspended that voting and is imposing to, >>> > in > >>> a >>> new vote about it, only europeans speakers can vote on it. >>> >>> Is all ok to the current rules for request a new language? >>> >>> >>> >>> > As a fluent portuguese speaker, I have no idea why a vote of this nature > must be restricted to only those who come from a certain country or > continent. I am, however, opposed to this idea, as well as the earlier > Brazilian Portuguese Wikipedia proposal that also failed. To me this > sounds like somebody trying to establish rules that would make his pet > project work, when there is strong opposition to the idea. I'll put > more of my thoughts on the new language poll page to keep down bandwidth. > > -- > Robert Scott Horning >

O RLY? I thought they were dialects of Chinese. On 7/4/06, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hoi, > Cantonese and Mandarin are BOTH languages according to ISO-639-3. > Thanks, > GerardM > > > James Hare wrote: > >> Yes, dialect forks are just a waste of space, bandwidth and time, unless >> > the > >> dialects vary greatly (such as Cantonese and Mandarin). >> >> On 7/3/06, Robert Scott Horning <robert_horning(a)netzero.net> wrote: >> >> >>> James Hare wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> The only reason why I can see two different Portuguese wikis is >>>> > because > >>> the >>> >>> >>>> two (majority) versions -- European Portuguese and Brazillian >>>> > Portuguese > >>> -- >>> >>> >>>> are very different. Are they? >>>> >>>> On 7/2/06, Luiz Augusto <lugusto(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Sorry for my English. Recently, a newbie from Portuguese Wikipedia >>>>> > has > >>>>> proposed on meta a vote to create Wikipedia in european portuguese. >>>>> > He > >>>>> don't >>>>> talked about it with any editor from pt:Wikipedia and that proposal >>>>> > has > >>>>> discovered by me, accidentally. I send a note in Village Pump from >>>>> pt:wikipedia. More than 30 editors has voted against that proposal. >>>>> Unconsoled with this, he was suspended that voting and is imposing >>>>> > to, > >>> in >>> >>> >>>>> a >>>>> new vote about it, only europeans speakers can vote on it. >>>>> >>>>> Is all ok to the current rules for request a new language? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> As a fluent portuguese speaker, I have no idea why a vote of this >>> > nature > >>> must be restricted to only those who come from a certain country or >>> continent. I am, however, opposed to this idea, as well as the earlier >>> Brazilian Portuguese Wikipedia proposal that also failed. To me this >>> sounds like somebody trying to establish rules that would make his pet >>> project work, when there is strong opposition to the idea. I'll put >>> more of my thoughts on the new language poll page to keep down >>> > bandwidth. > >>> -- >>> Robert Scott Horning

Hoi, What "we" call Chinese is no longer considered a language.. http://www.sil.org/iso639-3/documentation.asp?id=zho Thanks, GerardM

> It might not be a spoken language, but written Chinese is more or less > one language.

Not really. Read:

http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C4%99zyk_chi%C5%84ski