Yes I agree that well educated, young and technical blind people from the developed world have found better solutions for using the internet that we could produce with a listen button.
I see this more for 1) people who do not read because they do not know how 2) people who are blind but not technical (maybe they are elderly)
Patient.co.uk say that their listen button is used about 1% of the time. You can see it here http://www.patient.co.uk/health/gout-leaflet
My blind mom drives me and my brothers crazy by asking us to read her Wikipedia articles after she has listened to some book-on-tape or radio show. It would be great if she could speak the title of the article and have the article read back to her. If we ignore her, she takes revenge by turning on the TV full blast and flipping channels until she hears something that she can follow (very often it's Fox news). She has been legally blind for about 10 years now and what I have noticed is that she is very unwilling to listen to machine-read text (though it is better than nothing). I have often thought it would be good to have a radio channel that just hooked people like her up with people who are willing to read articles available online. Probably not something for a Wiki project though it could be if you used each reading as an opportunity to create or update an audio recording of the article.
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 2:02 PM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
Yes I agree that well educated, young and technical blind people from the developed world have found better solutions for using the internet that we could produce with a listen button.
I see this more for 1) people who do not read because they do not know how 2) people who are blind but not technical (maybe they are elderly)
Patient.co.uk say that their listen button is used about 1% of the time. You can see it here http://www.patient.co.uk/health/gout-leaflet
-- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com
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This is actually a good point in general. There are the average users, who are important and then some, but there are always other use cases too. Even if we can't reasonably support them, they're still there and still merit considering, if nothing else, and without stories like these we'd probably never even know.
So thank you.
On 29/05/15 14:49, Jane Darnell wrote:
My blind mom drives me and my brothers crazy by asking us to read her Wikipedia articles after she has listened to some book-on-tape or radio show. It would be great if she could speak the title of the article and have the article read back to her. If we ignore her, she takes revenge by turning on the TV full blast and flipping channels until she hears something that she can follow (very often it's Fox news). She has been legally blind for about 10 years now and what I have noticed is that she is very unwilling to listen to machine-read text (though it is better than nothing). I have often thought it would be good to have a radio channel that just hooked people like her up with people who are willing to read articles available online. Probably not something for a Wiki project though it could be if you used each reading as an opportunity to create or update an audio recording of the article.
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 2:02 PM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
Yes I agree that well educated, young and technical blind people from the developed world have found better solutions for using the internet that we could produce with a listen button.
I see this more for 1) people who do not read because they do not know how 2) people who are blind but not technical (maybe they are elderly)
Patient.co.uk say that their listen button is used about 1% of the time. You can see it here http://www.patient.co.uk/health/gout-leaflet
-- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
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What you may find interesting about her story is that she has never actually "seen" a Wikipedia article (though we used to have a Funk & Wagnalls new world encyclopedia that was read religiously too). Whenever I get to see her in real life (only about 1x or 2x per year) she has remembered all of the Wikipedia inconsistencies throughout the year and asks me to go in there and "fix" them. Oddly, she never asks my brothers to do this, so to her, writing Wikipedia is a woman's work.
On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 8:30 AM, Isarra Yos zhorishna@gmail.com wrote:
This is actually a good point in general. There are the average users, who are important and then some, but there are always other use cases too. Even if we can't reasonably support them, they're still there and still merit considering, if nothing else, and without stories like these we'd probably never even know.
So thank you.
On 29/05/15 14:49, Jane Darnell wrote:
My blind mom drives me and my brothers crazy by asking us to read her Wikipedia articles after she has listened to some book-on-tape or radio show. It would be great if she could speak the title of the article and have the article read back to her. If we ignore her, she takes revenge by turning on the TV full blast and flipping channels until she hears something that she can follow (very often it's Fox news). She has been legally blind for about 10 years now and what I have noticed is that she is very unwilling to listen to machine-read text (though it is better than nothing). I have often thought it would be good to have a radio channel that just hooked people like her up with people who are willing to read articles available online. Probably not something for a Wiki project though it could be if you used each reading as an opportunity to create or update an audio recording of the article.
On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 2:02 PM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
Yes I agree that well educated, young and technical blind people from
the developed world have found better solutions for using the internet that we could produce with a listen button.
I see this more for 1) people who do not read because they do not know how 2) people who are blind but not technical (maybe they are elderly)
Patient.co.uk say that their listen button is used about 1% of the time. You can see it here http://www.patient.co.uk/health/gout-leaflet
-- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
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