In a message dated 11/29/2010 11:33:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, midom.lists@gmail.com writes:
Hi!
Go on record, then I'll cite you. An email list is not a citable source, per our policy.
Why would I care about your policy? Which policy is 'our' policy? Why does it apply to anything here?
However a page on the server is citable. So put your reputation up for view, then you'll be citable :)
http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2010-November/062730.html
Domas
It's isn't my policy, it's our policy. If you don't know to what I refer, then perhaps you can read up on it. As far as citing the archives of an email list, that is also not a citable source.
If Foundation staff and supporters themselves, are *not prepared* to go on the record with their claims, then why should anyone trust anything they say on an email list?
That is the very nature of *false authority*, the bane of our project. I must say, I'm quite surprised that some people here don't grasp this concept yet, after the projects being in existence for so many years now, almost a decade right? It is a fundamental principle, that we should be citing actual authorities, not false claims to authority.
W
Hi!
It's isn't my policy, it's our policy.
Who is 'we', whom do you represent? :-)
If you don't know to what I refer, then perhaps you can read up on it.
You didn't tell what you represent and what policy you talk about, I don't know where to read about it.
As far as citing the archives of an email list, that is also not a citable source.
Thats very sad. I'm used to my mailing list posts being cited ;-)
If Foundation staff and supporters themselves, are *not prepared* to go on the record with their claims, then why should anyone trust anything they say on an email list?
I cannot speak for Foundation at the moment, so I don't know why they don't go "on the record". I don't go "on the record" because I don't see any purpose, I already wrote in email what I thought I wanted to write.
That is the very nature of *false authority*, the bane of our project.
What do you call 'our project'? I don't understand your affiliation.
I must say, I'm quite surprised that some people here don't grasp this concept yet, after the projects being in existence for so many years now, almost a decade right? It is a fundamental principle, that we should be citing actual authorities, not false claims to authority.
I'm quite surprised you think I should care about whatever you want me to care because you want me to care about it.
Cheers, Domas
On 29 November 2010 19:39, WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
I suspect you are the only person on this thread who considers that you are asking for something substantive and important.
- d.
Perhaps the definition of substance is different between you and me, Gerard, but I don't expect you won't disagree it's important for us at the community at large to confirm the Wikimedia accredited troll alive and go well around. /me ducks
On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 5:29 AM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 29 November 2010 19:39, WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
I suspect you are the only person on this thread who considers that you are asking for something substantive and important.
I rather suspected WJhonson just didn't know to talk with one of our sysadmins ...
- d.
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