Hoi,
When existing policies do not work, change the policies.
Thanks,
GerardM
On Dec 19, 2007 2:48 PM, <wikinewssvt(a)optonline.net> wrote:
In my opinion, the first-hand story-telling
nature of this article, is a
clear violation of WN:NPOV which is not just a Wikinews policy, but also a
Foundation issue (
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Neutral_point_of_view).
Don't get me wrong, it is great journalism, which could prove to be a coup
for Wikinews, raising its profile. However, it is incongruent with existing
policies.
Ultimately, I fear that allowing this may be like opening Pandora's box.
Sincerely,
SVTCobra
(
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/User:SVTCobra)
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian McNeil
Date: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 5:09 am
Subject: [Foundation-l] David Shankbone in Israel
To: 'Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List'
Cc: David Shankbone
David Shankbone's first report from Israel
(
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Israel_Journal:_The_Holy_Land_has_an_image_prob
lem) has provoked a bit of controversy. One
reaction I got was
"why the
segue into the COO issue?" It annoys me to see that the MSM are
now picking
this up (the COO issue) and whilst The Register broke the story
I don't
think they did anything beyond fact-check what their source told them.
Details from Wikinews' investigation have been lifted and
written into
recent coverage of the issue, we did check the Reg. story and we
found more
- including bankruptcy proceedings (PACER will give you a list
of the
creditors).
Anyway, back to David in Israel, and I assume a fair number of
people are
aware this is an expenses-paid trip where the Israeli government
and friends
are footing the bill. David's first piece seeks to say "here is the
stereotype, but that's not what I'm here for". If you read the
talk you'll
see we have some people think you can't do any story about
Israel without
going "OMG! Israel-Palestine! Car bombs! Terrorists! Human rights
violations! Israeli oppression!". I agree with David's argument
that this is
like saying every coverage of the U.S. should have an aside
about Camp Delta
in Guantanamo - and I *know* people who'd do that too - we've
had to ban
idiots like that from Wikinews in the past.
I'd like people on the list to read this with a critical eye and
see what
they think about Wikinews developing policies and structure to
allow this
sort of reporting. Keep any eye out for David's forthcoming
reports. The
indications I have from private email are that they're keeping their
journalist guests busy about 12-14 hours a day and if they don't have
breakfast with Israeli technologists it's probably the only meal
of the day
they're getting off the job. Not a holiday by any means.
Brian McNeil
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