I totally agree with Rajeeb too. A Wikimedian who is otherwise volunteering and would like to share their findings/observations with others over an online event would already be extending their volunteer hours just for applying and preparing for a conference. Asking them to pay is not fair whatever the reason is, and especially when many developing countries are grappling with huge health and economic disasters (not to mention the environmental disaster that recently hit the eastern coast of India or what Indonesia and the Philippines face on a regular basis). This is precisely the reason some volunteers are disbursed for their internet expenses when they participate in a discussion series in some of the events. I know it might not be easy for an edu institution that might already be struggling with funding to organize an event, but this event is focused on the Wikimedia movement and is special for many. Exclusion for financial reasons should be seriously thought about.

Subhashish

On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 2:16 PM Mark SHUTTLEWORTH <markshut@hkbu.edu.hk> wrote:

Thank you everyone for your comments. Just to confirm, we have reduced the registration fees very significantly since taking the decision to go online, and they are now as stated by Anne below. We hope that the new fee level will permit anyone to attend who would be interested to, although if need be I can also take Rajeeb's suggestion to the organising committee and see if it might be possible to provide some financial help where necessary. Anne, many thanks for your sponsorship suggestion, and if something like that were possible it would be really excellent.

All best

Mark

On Thu, 27 May 2021 at 21:48, Rajeeb <marajozkee@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear friends and colleagues,

Hope my mail finds you all in the best of health and spirit. It is good news that the conference is happening and not put off due to the pandemic, I would like to thank the organizers for taking the conference to 100% online.

Though not happy as one needs to pay for the registration fee especially when the event is online and due to pandemic people are and have lost jobs.

I would like to request the organizers to give a thought on this matter.

Namaste,

Rajeeb.

On Thu, 27 May 2021 at 13:45, Risker <risker.wp@gmail.com> wrote:

While I understand that this could be a concern if it was a large fee, it works out to about $13 USD/11 Euros for observer status, and double that for presenter status.  This does not sound outrageous; it pays for the equipment, software, staffing, technical support, and bandwidth, as well as the maintenance and storage of presentation materials.  Even online conferences have some costs, and those costs are often not being absorbed by sponsors to the extent that they have been in the past.

It may be worthwhile for the WMF to agree to take a certain number of slots and pay for them, and then allot them to people with a significant history of translation on our projects on a first come/first served basis; honestly, they could support the registration fees for 25 editors for less than 500 USD.  That's a bargain, especially if they want to shift the focus to translation into smaller projects.

I hope that the conference goes well. 

Risker/Anne

On Thu, 27 May 2021 at 03:42, Željko Blaće <zblace@mi2.hr> wrote:

Also interested in contributing, but registration fee is something that puts me off when approaching academic conferences, especially now when online so much of the cost is reduced.

Best - Z. Blace

On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 9:22 AM Natacha Rault via Wikimedia-l <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:

Hi Mark, 

This is really interesting. I take care of les sans pagEs community on fr-wikii and we translate a lot from English, a little from Spanish and Italian. I would keen to participate, thanks for sharing!

Kind regards, 

Nattes à chat

Le 27 mai 2021 à 07:47, Mark SHUTTLEWORTH <markshut@hkbu.edu.hk> a écrit :

Dear friends and colleagues

Further to my message at the end of last month and the queries that one or two of you made, I'd like to notify you of the following:

1. the conference will now be 100% online

2. the deadline for submission of proposals has been extended to 30th June 2021

Full updated details and Call for Papers can be found on the conference website at https://ctn.hkbu.edu.hk/wikiconf2021/.

Best regards

Mark Shuttleworth

On Tue, 27 Apr 2021 at 12:13, Mark SHUTTLEWORTH <markshut@hkbu.edu.hk> wrote:

Dear friends and colleagues

Please permit me to publicise an academic conference that we're holding at Hong Kong Baptist University on 15-17 December 2021.

The conference will be an ideal forum in which to discuss research methodologies, issues of collaborativity, theoretical frameworks that have proven valuable for the study of Wikipedia translation, the use of Wikipedia in the translation classroom and by translation professionals, and the nature of Wikipedia translation and how it differs not only from other more traditional types of translation but also from other newly emerging types. While the conference's main focus is interlingual translation within the online encyclopaedia, we are also interested in research into the multilingual Wikipedia that makes no explicit reference to translation issues.

The conference will be online, face-to-face or mixed mode, depending on prevailing circumstances. Please see the conference website at https://ctn.hkbu.edu.hk/wikiconf2021/ for full details and the Call for Papers.

I hope to see some of you there!

Mark

Professor Mark Shuttleworth 夏致遠
Department of Translation, Interpreting and Intercultural Studies
Hong Kong Baptist University
Phone: +852 3411 6641
http://www.tran.hkbu.edu.hk

https://ctn.hkbu.edu.hk/wikiconf2021/

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