On 12/20/22 16:16, David Gerard wrote:
> Legoktm runs https://wikis.world which a small number of Wikimedians
> and WIkimedia groups are already on.
Thanks for promoting us! To clarify, this is absolutely a group effort,
with Taavi, Lucas Werkmeister, and Nemo_bis being some of the main
people involved.
Thank you for leading and opening up effort + not waiting for the perfect
(...the enemy of...) as you also had personal urgency, good combo :-)
Our goal is to build the community organically, so we can take the time
to properly scale up moderation resources, write documentation, etc. You
can browse through our pretty vibrant local timeline,
<https://wikis.world/public/local>, with people discussing public domain
day, redactle scores, unattributed use of photos, software patches, and
more!
More details and information on how to get an account at
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikis_World>.
Nice to see there is a start of self-documentation effort also
so learning can start for those who want to help or self host.
Nice to see a few affiliates already there with official accounts.
I subscribed to help
+ would love to online meet ... in January?
> But yes - recommended best practice for organisations is to run their
> own instance. Putting an instance up on a domain you own is also a
> clear stamp of authenticity.
I would say that for most chapters/user groups, running their own
instance is a lot of work and overkill; having an account on a regional
or thematic server would be better. For larger organizations (like the
WMF), it's definitely doable and really should be done.
In my experience (with few efforts over the years) different needs form
largely strategies including people having separate accounts for projects
and different aspects of their lives, but also when grouped different policies
especially with the level of moderation, but also form, identity and formality
*(most of my artists friends run super open, queer friends fairly closed pods).
So on that note, a big shout out to Wikimedia Deutschland for setting up
<https://social.wikimedia.de>! It's really great to see.
Oh Yes - combination of having FLOSS-push and resources helps.
FLOSS Hub (anyone?) would be even better for wider deployments.
> Twitter has stayed up so far, but bits are visibly falling off. The
It is a pity that Twitter needed to become (obviously) toxic
for this level of open software/standards discussions to scale up.
> assorted official Wikimedia accounts should be posting in the main
> federation too, from an official presence.
My understanding is that the WMF has some confidential position on this
that it is explicitly choosing not to share with community members.[1]
[1] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T323837#8442502
-- Kunal / Legoktm
I doubt there is controversy or business secrets there.
Unfortunately it seems that much of WMF's opacity
is preemptive workplace (safety) and PR (risk) dynamics
:-/
Best Z. Blace