We have a number of source specific templates, such as {{EB1911}} for
acknowledging re-used source material. There is as yet no automatic
mechanism for changing these as and when the actual copying is replaced
entirely.
On 28 Aug 2017 01:18, "Gnangarra" <gnangarra(a)gmail.com> wrote:
but the information is exactly the same, url, date,
author, title - the
refn template can include anything you need to add including license detail
ie cc-by all of which can be internal or external links
On 28 August 2017 at 00:26, John Erling Blad <jeblad(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Citation and reuse is two different things.
On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Gnangarra <gnangarra(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> that notice states that text has been used, a specific citation where
the
> text would add context by using
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> Template:Refn
>
> On 27 August 2017 at 22:22, John Erling Blad <jeblad(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Use of a template does not accurately identify the copied text, and
in
> this
> > case nor the author.
> >
> > The license is the contract with the author and the reason why the
text
> can
> > be copied. If the license says the author shall be identified, the by
> > attribution clause, then a link to the site is not good enough. If
the
> > share alike clause is given, then it is
even harder to give correct
> credit,
> > as the request for credit can be pretty weird.
> >
> > Anyhow, a page that is later edited is not necessarily something the
> > external editor has created, he or she has created a part that at
some
>
point in time was incorporated in the page, and the present page may
not
> even contain this content anymore.
>
> On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Gnangarra <gnangarra(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
least
> specifically for the purpose of
incorporating text licensed cc-by
content
> > within articles
> >
> > On 27 August 2017 at 21:28, John Erling Blad <jeblad(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> > > In some cases we need to attribute content created on external
sites,
> and
> > > reused on Wikimedia-sites. In Norway Åndsverksloven says "The
creator
> has
> > > the right to be named according to good practice"
("Opphavsmannen
har
> > > krav
> > > > på å bli navngitt slik som god skikk tilsier") and for our
content
> that
> > > is
> > > > given by our license and our terms of use. That means by a link
to
> the
> > > page
> > > > if possible, or if possible an entry in the history.
> > > >
> > > > Now we use a template on the page itself, or similar, but it is
not
the
> > page on our site that the external
entity has provided, they have
> provided
> > the content at their site. So we must say that in some consistent
way.
> > >
> > > I believe that the best option would be to have a log entry
injected
> > into
> > > > the history for our page that says "this revision comes in full
or
part
> > > from that external source". Such an entry could be made by the
editor
> > or
> > > by
> > > > an administrator, but must be made as an extension of the
revision.
It
> > > should also be possible to delete such an entry.
> > >
> > > An alternative could be to make the summary editable, but the
summary
is
> > the description of the revision, not the source of the revision.
> >
> > Does this make sense? Will it solve the problem, or is it just
another
> > > level that makes things more confusing?
> > >
> > > John Erling Blad
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