You've made your opinion perfectly clear on-wiki. I am seeking a wider
consultation, not a continuation of that argument in a different venue.
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Sent: 19 December 2007 14:48
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Subject: Re: [Foundation-l] David Shankbone in Israel
In my opinion, the first-hand story-telling nature of this article, is a
clear violation of WN:NPOV which is not just a Wikinews policy, but also a
Foundation issue (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Neutral_point_of_view
Don't get me wrong, it is great journalism, which could prove to be a coup
for Wikinews, raising its profile. However, it is incongruent with existing
Ultimately, I fear that allowing this may be like opening Pandora's box.
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian McNeil
Date: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 5:09 am
Subject: [Foundation-l] David Shankbone in Israel
To: 'Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List'
Cc: David Shankbone
David Shankbone's first report from Israel
lem) has provoked a bit of controversy. One reaction I
segue into the COO issue?" It annoys me to see that the MSM are
this up (the COO issue) and whilst The Register broke the story
think they did anything beyond fact-check what their source told them.
Details from Wikinews' investigation have been lifted and
recent coverage of the issue, we did check the Reg. story and we
- including bankruptcy proceedings (PACER will give you a list
Anyway, back to David in Israel, and I assume a fair number of
aware this is an expenses-paid trip where the Israeli government
are footing the bill. David's first piece seeks to say "here is the
stereotype, but that's not what I'm here for". If you read the
see we have some people think you can't do any story about
going "OMG! Israel-Palestine! Car bombs! Terrorists! Human rights
violations! Israeli oppression!". I agree with David's argument
that this is
like saying every coverage of the U.S. should have an aside
about Camp Delta
in Guantanamo - and I *know* people who'd do that too - we've
had to ban
idiots like that from Wikinews in the past.
I'd like people on the list to read this with a critical eye and
they think about Wikinews developing policies and structure to
sort of reporting. Keep any eye out for David's forthcoming
indications I have from private email are that they're keeping their
journalist guests busy about 12-14 hours a day and if they don't have
breakfast with Israeli technologists it's probably the only meal
of the day
they're getting off the job. Not a holiday by any means.
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