Hello Dan,
You are allowed to offer an opinion but I Honestly think that's better and more useful on the Draft talk page.
That being said, by "effective vote or representation in the proceedings", you probably expected a different model where different language Wikip(m)edia community would be represented or vote on weather to have a UCoC.
The current model isn't bad. I do think we should review the draft and if there are specific wording we disagree with, we can either suggest improvement or removal altogether. I honestly think we need to help and support the drafting committee at this stage.
Regards
Isaac
On Tue, 8 Sep 2020, 19:25 Dan Szymborski, dszymborski@gmail.com wrote:
I'm also perfectly free to express to the IRS that I'd really like to get a $10 million check from them at tax time. The ability to offer an opinion on proceedings with no effective vote or representation in the proceedings is about as good as a fart in the wind. I'd prefer the WMF keep its flatulence to itself.
On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 2:17 PM Isaac Olatunde reachout2isaac@gmail.com wrote:
On the contrary, I do not think this is an imposition by the Board or WMF as we are allowed to comment on the draft, and suggest improvement.
I have been following the process closely and I do not see anything that looks like an "imposition"
The Universal Code of Conduct is not a substitute to the existing policy
or
guidelines but a behavioural guidelines expected of users in any
Wikimedia
project.
Regards
Isaac
On Tue, 8 Sep 2020, 16:11 Dan Szymborski, dszymborski@gmail.com wrote:
As this is being explicitly imposed by the board from above without community approval, participating in any way is ethically unsound.
Doubly
so without a board election preceding this as the WMF has arbitrarily denied communities the right, as manifested in the election of the community seats, to voice their opinions of actions that WMF has taken
over
the last 18 months. A collaborative process is a collaborative process
when
it's actually a collaborative process, not just when it's called one.
The best use of time at this point is to organize the communities to
use
every means at its disposal to resist such an imposition.
On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 4:18 PM Patrick Earley pearley@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hello, everyone.
We are excited to share a draft of the Universal Code of Conduct https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct, which
the
Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees called for earlier this year <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/May_2...
,
for your review and feedback. The discussion will be open until
October
6,
The UCoC Drafting Committee <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Drafting_committee
wants
to learn which parts of the draft would present challenges for you or
your
work. What is missing from this draft? What do you like, and what
could
be
improved?
Many thanks to the Committee, and everyone who has helped with
translations
so far.
Please join the conversation <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Draft_review%3E
and share this email with others who may be interested to join, too.
To learn more about the UCoC project, see the Universal Code of
Conduct
page https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct, and the
FAQ
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/FAQ, on
Meta.
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct
[2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/May_2...
[3]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Draft_review
[4] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/FAQ
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