Hello Dan,
You are allowed to offer an opinion but I Honestly think that's better and
more useful on the Draft talk page.
That being said, by "effective vote or representation in the proceedings",
you probably expected a different model where different language
Wikip(m)edia community would be represented or vote on weather to have a
UCoC.
The current model isn't bad. I do think we should review the draft and if
there are specific wording we disagree with, we can either suggest
improvement or removal altogether. I honestly think we need to help and
support the drafting committee at this stage.
Regards
Isaac
On Tue, 8 Sep 2020, 19:25 Dan Szymborski, <dszymborski(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I'm also perfectly free to express to the IRS that
I'd really like to get a
$10 million check from them at tax time. The ability to offer an opinion on
proceedings with no effective vote or representation in the proceedings is
about as good as a fart in the wind. I'd prefer the WMF keep its flatulence
to itself.
On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 2:17 PM Isaac Olatunde <reachout2isaac(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
On the contrary, I do not think this is an
imposition by the Board or WMF
as we are allowed to comment on the draft, and suggest improvement.
I have been following the process closely and I do not see anything that
looks like an "imposition"
The Universal Code of Conduct is not a substitute to the existing policy
or
guidelines but a behavioural guidelines expected
of users in any
Wikimedia
project.
Regards
Isaac
On Tue, 8 Sep 2020, 16:11 Dan Szymborski, <dszymborski(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> As this is being explicitly imposed by the board from above without
> community approval, participating in any way is ethically unsound.
Doubly
so
without a board election preceding this as the WMF has arbitrarily
denied communities the right, as manifested in the election of the
community seats, to voice their opinions of actions that WMF has taken
over
the last 18 months. A collaborative process is a
collaborative process
when
> it's actually a collaborative process, not just when it's called one.
>
> The best use of time at this point is to organize the communities to
use
> every means at its disposal to resist such
an imposition.
>
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 4:18 PM Patrick Earley <pearley(a)wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello, everyone.
> >
> > We are excited to share a draft of the Universal Code of Conduct
> > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct>, which
the
Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees called for
earlier this year
<
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/May_…
> > >,
> > for your review and feedback. The discussion will be open until
October
6,
2020.
The UCoC Drafting Committee
<
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Drafting_committee
> > >wants
> > to learn which parts of the draft would present challenges for you or
> your
> > work. What is missing from this draft? What do you like, and what
could
be
improved?
Many thanks to the Committee, and everyone who has helped with
translations
> so far.
>
>
> Please join the conversation
> <
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Draft_review>
> > and share this email with others who may be interested to join, too.
> >
> > To learn more about the UCoC project, see the Universal Code of
Conduct
>
page
> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct>, and the
FAQ
<https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/FAQ>, on
Meta.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/May_…
> >
> > [3]
>
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/Draft_review
> > [4]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Universal_Code_of_Conduct/FAQ
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