Notability and verifiability are important. They allow us to produce reasonably reliable
work. Moving away from those constraints opens the doors to extremely unreliable material.
If Wikipedia is to remain open to anyone to edit, there do not appear to be any robust
alternatives. Other projects may work around this problem, but would then probably not be
open for anyone to edit. Or can you suggest another way?
Cheers,
Peter
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From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of
Jean-Philippe BĂ©land
Sent: 10 May 2018 15:01
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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems
"Nothing odd, it's baked in: Wikipedia is a summary of the canon of
knowledge, the corpus of generally accepted knowledge."
But it is what we accept as part of the canon of "knowledge" as Wikipedia
that could be improved. We have a very western approach to that saying that
it needs to be published in such books or journals to be notable enough,
when different cultures use different ways to build their canon of
knowledge.
JP
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On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 5:53 AM FRED BAUDER <fredbaud(a)fairpoint.net> wrote:
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From: Jane Darnell <jane023(a)gmail.com>
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Sent: Thu, 10 May 2018 04:02:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Gendergap approach causing problems
...because of our rules regarding references. Oddly,
Wikipedia can at best only echo the systemic bias, but will never be able
to correct it."
Nothing odd, it's baked in: Wikipedia is a summary of the canon of
knowledge, the corpus of generally accepted knowledge.
The knowledge industry could do better. And when it does, Wikipedia will
reflect that. in the meantime it is helpful if gender and other bias issues
are noted and accommodated. Our mission is more modest than full correction
of all bias, but we can contribute or even lead.
Fred
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