For what it's worth - and this might explain some people's circumstances:
I see many fundraising banners each year, even though I'm logged in, but
the reason I see them is because I've clicked on a Wikipedia article link
while using a third-party website (e.g. from Facebook, or twitter). In
those cases when I land on the wikipedia article i'm still within the
'mini-broswer' of facebook etc and the fundraising banner system can not
know that I'm logged in on my primary browser. This happen equally on my
desktop and then also on my mobile phone.
So, while it is true that the WMF is not showing banners to logged in
people, it is equally true that I see a lot of banners (when I've clicked
on wikipedia links from within other websites/platforms). No one is lying -
it's just we're talking about what we mean by 'logged in' differently.
This does not explain every possible circumstance, for every person, for
why people in this thread are saying that they see banners even though
they're logged in. But it is one explanation of a common situation that
might explain things for some people.
Hope that helps,
-Liam / Wittylama
Peace, love & metadata
On 12 September 2017 at 18:41, Joseph Seddon <jseddon(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Hey David & Romaine,
I wanted to just give a quick reply to let you know that I am looking into
this further.
I will reiterate that WMF fundraising does not and has not actively shown
fundraising banners to logged in users for the past five years and I do
apologise if you've been disrupted in your work whether through human or
technical error.
The possible causes for this are numerous and it will take time to identify
the scale, cause and solution to this.
Regards
Seddon
On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Romaine Wiki <romaine.wiki(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
I am sorry to say but I am constantly logged in
and do see fundraising
banners every year.
Each time when it was announced fundraising banners would come, I have
seen
them logged in, in multiple countries.
Romaine
Op dinsdag 5 september 2017 heeft Joseph Seddon <jseddon(a)wikimedia.org>
het
volgende geschreven:
Hey Strainu,
You are probably right in that you saw a banner but regarding
specifically
> fundraising banners, I am 100% certain that the WMF does not and has
not
> for some years actively shown banners to
users who are logged in. The
> caveat with that is this does not preclude any possibility of human
error
> or a software bug. I'm not aware of any
specific occasion where this
has
occurred
in the last two years but with a piece of software that serves
billions of page views, across 20-30 countries and some probably some
3000
> banner tests during that period, probabilities that something hadn't
gone
wrong
start reaching levels of sigma that not even I would attempt to
claim
:P
Regards
Seddon
On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Strainu <strainu10(a)gmail.com
<javascript:;>> wrote:
> Changing subject, the other thread is about something totally
different.
2017-09-05 14:38 GMT+03:00 Joseph Seddon <jseddon(a)wikimedia.org
<javascript:;>>:
> WMF hasn't shown fundraising banners to
logged in users for several
years.
While I wouldn't bet my life on it, I'm pretty sure I saw banners on
mobile just last month, while being logged in.
Strainu
>
> Regards
> Seddon
>
>
>
> On 5 Sep 2017 08:33, "Lodewijk" <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org
<javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> >> Hey Ori,
> >>
> >> I like the creative thinking :) For the fundraising that could
indeed
> work
> >> well (although I have no numbers on what percentage of domations
comes
from
>> logged in users etc), but there are also campaigns tht are quite
relevant
>> for logged in users.
>>
>> Lodewijk
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 3, 2017 at 7:16 PM, Ori Livneh <ori.livneh(a)gmail.com
<javascript:;>>
wrote:
>>
>> > On Sep 3, 2017 13:02, "David Gerard" <dgerard(a)gmail.com
<javascript:;>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On 2 September 2017 at 02:09, Michael Peel <email(a)mikepeel.net
<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > This is possibly the most annoying feature of the Wikimedia
> projects at
> >> > the moment. You access a page. Then you start reading or editing
it.
> > And
> > >> > then suddenly the page jumps when a fundraising banner / central
> > notice /
> > >> > gadget / beta feature loads. So you have to start reading the
page
> > again,
> > >> > or you have to find where you were editing again, or you have to
> undo
> > the
> > >> > change you just made since you made it in the wrong part of the
> page.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Or you click "edit" and it hits the banner that
suddenly popped
up
>
>> > under your click. AAAAAAAAAAAA
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > One possible solution would be to exempt anyone who edits an
article
> > from
> > >> > being shown a banner by means of a cookie with a suitable
expiry.
>
Since
> >> > only a tiny fraction of visitors edit, I would expect the impact
on
the
>> > WMF's bottom line to be negligible.
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