I think, Benjamin, that sometimes some users don't get the experience of other
people. I met so many smart men and women with very trivial hobbies that the idea of such
separation sounds simply wrong or odd. I have never edited on "pop" topic on
purpose, I have no interest for cartoons or TV series, mostly "serious" stuff,
still I don't see the issue here.
Maybe on some local communities this will remain accepted as general truth, that
"opposing" focus or research on "pop" topics is good for the image or
the balance of energies of the Wikimedia projects but when you move on the global scale I
don't think it holds very well.
It sounds simple to say so, but based on my experience I don't think it's actually
correct. Again, I am willing to read any peer-reviewed publication where something related
to the opposite is stated, but so far if these are just opinions, than I stick to my
perception, and I remain generally favorable toward this sort of interest.
Il giovedì 14 marzo 2019, 01:08:57 CET, Benjamin Ikuta <benjaminikuta(a)gmail.com>
ha scritto:
I also don't see why it would be such a problem to have more articles about Pokemon.
Volunteer effort is certainly not zero sum.
Contributing to one area doesn't necessarily mean contributing less to another.
Speaking from personal experience now, one of my earliest Wikipedia edits was about
Pokemon.
It was reverted.
Luckily, I was not discouraged, but I know that many people would be, and that is a real
problem.
I think there's a bias on Wikipedia when weighing the pros and cons of policy, because
it's easy to overlook the absence of something that never was there to begin with.
On Mar 13, 2019, at 5:01 PM, Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l
<wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> wrote:
We certainly could do editatons about Naruto and
Pokemon and it would actually be quite useful. As Paulo said, a well written
"pop" page has a good influence. People can understand easily how a complex and
multifaceted article with appropriate navboxes, infoboxed, is structured for a trivial
topic, and think how they can help for other topics.
I repeat the concept: I have friends who work at the top of their fields, some of them
have also their own wikipedia article (I am not telling which one because of respect of
their privacy) and they leave edits on complex topic sometimes but it's their everyday
job so they are bored to do even on wiki in their free time. Still, they do a little bit
and they learned how to do it visiting other pages about the most trivial topics you can
imagine. They showed me their first edits as IPs sometimes and they are as diverse as you
can imagine. Obscure dialects, silly TV series, things like that.
Also, since we are talking about Pokemon....I can show something directly like Paulo
did.This is the history of the article Cronologia delle modifiche di "Ulva
lactuca" - Wikipedia Ulva Lactuca. HisuiSama and Adriana Hariuc who added more text
on January the 20th are the same students who are comparing the very same morning a plant
at the botanical garden to a Pokemon in this gallery:
https://twitter.com/Alexmar983/status/1087119134058516480
So, Go Pokemon... I know about the "pokemon test" but in the end I actually
wish we had more Pokemon pages, it would probably be fine.
Alex
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Il giovedì 14 marzo 2019, 00:14:57 CET, Benjamin Ikuta <benjaminikuta(a)gmail.com>
ha scritto:
I, for one, would indeed go so far as to say we should be doing editatons about Naruto
and Pokemon.
On Mar 12, 2019, at 10:10 AM, Paulo Santos Perneta <paulosperneta(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
I would not go as far as saying we should be
doing edithatons about Naruto
and Pokemons,
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