Kaya
With all due respect if there are potential solutions already created then
it doent matter which project or what language they are on they can be
adapted and translated as necessary, even made global
On 29 August 2017 at 19:53, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hoi,
With all due respect. These templates are probably English Wikipedia only.
Consequently they are not available on a Wikimedia level.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 29 August 2017 at 13:39, Richard Farmbrough <richard(a)farmbrough.co.uk>
wrote:
We have a number of source specific templates,
such as {{EB1911}} for
acknowledging re-used source material. There is as yet no automatic
mechanism for changing these as and when the actual copying is replaced
entirely.
On 28 Aug 2017 01:18, "Gnangarra" <gnangarra(a)gmail.com> wrote:
but the information is exactly the same, url,
date, author, title - the
refn template can include anything you need to add including license
detail
ie cc-by all of which can be internal or external
links
On 28 August 2017 at 00:26, John Erling Blad <jeblad(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Citation and reuse is two different things.
>
> On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 4:31 PM, Gnangarra <gnangarra(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> > > that notice states that text has been used, a specific citation
where
the
> > text would add context by using
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
> > Template:Refn
> >
> > On 27 August 2017 at 22:22, John Erling Blad <jeblad(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> > >
> > > > Use of a template does not accurately identify the copied text,
and
> in
> > > this
> > > > case nor the author.
> > > >
> > > > The license is the contract with the author and the reason why
the
> text
> > > can
> > > > be copied. If the license says the author shall be identified,
the
by
> > > > attribution clause, then a link to the site is not good enough.
If
> the
> > > > share alike clause is given, then it is even harder to give
correct
> >
credit,
> > > as the request for credit can be pretty weird.
> > >
> > > Anyhow, a page that is later edited is not necessarily something
the
> >
external editor has created, he or she has created a part that at
some
> > > point in time was incorporated in the page, and the present page
may
> > not
> > > > even contain this content anymore.
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Gnangarra
<gnangarra(a)gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > There is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:CC-notice on
en
at
> > > least
> > > > > specifically for the purpose of incorporating text licensed
cc-by
> >
content
> > > > within articles
> > > >
> > > > On 27 August 2017 at 21:28, John Erling Blad <jeblad(a)gmail.com
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > In some cases we need to attribute content created on
external
>
sites,
> > > and
> > > > > reused on Wikimedia-sites. In Norway Åndsverksloven says
"The
> creator
> > > has
> > > > > the right to be named according to good practice"
("Opphavsmannen
> > har
> > > > > krav
> > > > > > på å bli navngitt slik som god skikk tilsier") and for
our
> content
> > > that
> > > > > is
> > > > > > given by our license and our terms of use. That means by a
link
> to
> > > the
> > > > > page
> > > > > > if possible, or if possible an entry in the history.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now we use a template on the page itself, or similar, but
it
is
not
> > the
> > > > > page on our site that the external entity has provided, they
have
> > > > provided
> > > > > the content at their site. So we must say that in some
consistent
> > > way.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I believe that the best option would be to have a log
entry
> > injected
> > > > into
> > > > > > the history for our page that says "this revision
comes in
full
> or
> > > part
> > > > > > from that external source". Such an entry could be
made by
the
editor
> > or
> > > by
> > > > an administrator, but must be made as an extension of the
revision.
> > It
> > > > > should also be possible to delete such an entry.
> > > > >
> > > > > An alternative could be to make the summary editable, but the
> summary
> > > is
> > > > > the description of the revision, not the source of the
revision.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does this make sense? Will it solve the problem, or is it
just
> > > another
> > > > > > level that makes things more confusing?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John Erling Blad
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