Hoi, As the discussions about all these plans is going to be in English, it will be very much "others" telling communities how to behave, how to move forward. The notion that policies and guidelines are good is offset by people who found themselves not or no longer welcome and moved away. As this is already true for English language projects, you may appreciate that the notion that "the" rules and guidelines are beneficial is just wrong when you try to project them on other projects.
When you want to transcend local policies and guidelines, you have to start thinking on a more global level. On this level there are big and small Wikipedias, Wiktionaries, Wikibooks etc. There are projects that serve a global need and are the victim of local constraints like Commons and also Meta. We are not organised in a way that gives priority to the more global issues and consequently we are very much unaware of issues that the "others" face and why our "local" issues can be irrelevant elsewhere. Given this lack of awareness there are few low hanging fruits because we forgot to bring the bees to the orchard. Thanks, GerardM
2009/5/2 philippe philippe.wiki@gmail.com
On May 1, 2009, at 4:30 PM, geni wrote:
Doesn't really work. The flawed assumption is that very little of the wikimedia community cares about how others think they should move forward.
And that, Geni, is where I think Wikimedia is going to do it correctly: if the plan goes as it has been described to us, it won't be "others" telling the community how to move forward, it will be the community having discussions and charting the course.
Philippe
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