Fluff-
When crazies go crazy
about Wikipedia, they go *very *crazy, and breaking a padlock in an office isn't that outlandish for some of them.
It will not happen without staff being fully aware, and an intruder knowing which cabinet to break into without significant effort is extremely unlikely, would require either cooperation of an insider and/or office visits while acting considerably saner (at least; if not much more than that).
Even if the risk is nonzero, the risk to me that it will happen secretly (as opposed to, "X broke in but the SFPD arrested them with a handful of docs including your ID photocopies") is very low.
I am much more worried about accidental unrecognized leaks of digital data. MUCH.
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Katherine Casey < fluffernutter.wiki@gmail.com> wrote:
As far as " The physical handling is relatively easy to ensure is proper", well... Considering that some of our less sane problematic users have, if I'm remembering correctly, shown up at the WMF office itself and would have loved to get their hands on the real-life documents of our advanced-privilege users, I'm not all that confident that *any *storage on the WMF premises, short of a vault, is adequate. When crazies go crazy about Wikipedia, they go *very *crazy, and breaking a padlock in an office isn't that outlandish for some of them.
-Fluff
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 7:21 PM, George Herbert <george.herbert@gmail.com
wrote:
Going back to the 2011 discussions on otrs lists, a flag was raised that challenged whether the WMF had sufficiently secure servers to host copies of ID documents that might be electronically submitted, including sufficient firewalling and/or airgapping, internal access controls, etc.
My impression was that once that was raised as a detailed concern, the
push
died off rapidly, but I may be misremembering.
Let me now ask - Can the WMF either publicly or privately (I live in the
SF
Bay Area and can come over and talk) provide enough detailed assurance as to the digital medium storage plan for these IDs?
This is enough data for someone to do an identity theft with. The
physical
handling is relatively easy to ensure is proper (locked cabinet or the
like
requires a physical office intrusion). The electronic...
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 4:15 PM, Rschen7754 <rschen7754.wiki@gmail.com
wrote:
Speaking for myself, I have no problems with the overall idea, and I
doubt
that a lot of the others who have signed the petition do either.
The problem is in the details of how it is implemented, and that appropriate safeguards are not written into place to protect the
privacy
and legal rights of those who (re)identify. I know some European users
have
raised concerns about how the overall policy does not work for them
and/or
would cause them to break the law. I don't believe that they should
have
to
stand alone.
Thanks,
Rschen7754 rschen7754.wiki@gmail.com
On Oct 23, 2013, at 4:07 PM, Marc A. Pelletier marc@uberbox.org
wrote:
On 10/23/2013 07:01 PM, Newyorkbrad wrote:
(I myself can think of one and only one, but am curious if there are others.)
I can also think of exactly one off the cuff (and it is almost
certainly
the same); but I can think of a couple of scenarios where the
dissuasive
effect alone might have made a difference.
But my understanding is that this is prompted by a more serious focus
on
accountability than over any particular incident.
-- Marc
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