On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:16 PM, geni <geniice(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Or not.
Okey so it happened that the thing was taking place at a time
reasonable for my timezone. So I check
http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/Task_force/Living_People/IRC_Agendas
So there hasn't been an agenda in months. Fair enough agendas can be a
pain. Hey how hard can it be to wing it?
You're confusing the agendas of a Task Force to the office hours of
the strategy process as a whole. As stated at:
http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_Office_Hours
the goals of these office hours are to answer questions and engage in
discussion. These are not formal meetings, but a designated period
where Philippe and I make ourselves available to interact with people
in real-time. We keep the agenda open, but at the same time, we also
do our best to keep the discussion relevant. And, as with the strategy
process as a whole, we've worked hard to maintain an environment of
constructive, positive discourse.
Personally I think it's a bad idea to sacrifice
screen real estate on
order to solve the odd TR:DR problem. So I make this clear. I'm told
that this is related to having a deadline. I start to make the case
that perhaps things are getting a little too meta. I also make the
case that a tool that is based around removing context and nuance form
posts is a bad idea. I start to make the case that if there is a
deadline to meet it is better to work out how to do it using
technology we already know well (remember no one was considering
adding reflect to say en.pedia) rather than trying to introduce new
technology and hope it will allow us to do things faster to the extent
it makes up for the time lost deploying it and learning how to use it.
But at that point I was kinda banned.
The decision to kick geniice off the channel was mine. You can read
the log to see how the discussion evolved and my explanation for why I
made this decision:
http://strategy.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC_office_hours/2010-06-01
I don't think foundation-l is the appropriate place to discuss these
specific grievances, and I'm happy to continue this discussion on
strategy wiki's Village Pump. That said, I think we have a strong
record for openness and tolerance of all views, as long as the
discussion has remained polite and constructive, and I'm happy to
address any general questions about this here.
=Eugene
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